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KIEV, Ukraine After days of obstruction, Russia-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine reached an agreement with Malaysia on Monday to surrender the flight recorder boxes of the Malaysia Airlines jetliner downed by a surface-to-air missile last week, and allowed the bodies of the victims to be evacuated by train.
The agreement, announced by the prime minister of Malaysia, Najib Razak, in a live television broadcast, appeared to represent a significant movement to end the standoff over the aftermath of the crash of Flight 17 from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, which killed 298 people whose bodies lay for days in a wheat field in eastern Ukraine, an area controlled by the separatists.
The refusal of the separatists to permit unfettered access to the crash site has raised suspicions that they were responsible for the missile strike that felled the plane. It has also generated enormous international criticism of the Ukrainian separatists and of President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/22/world/europe/putin-calls-for-talks-in-ukraine-and-a-robust-crash-investigation.html?_r=0
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)Response to Jenoch (Reply #1)
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William769
(55,147 posts)sheshe2
(83,898 posts)I just want the families to be able to bury their loved ones. It's heartbreaking.
William769
(55,147 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)whereas anything may be possible on the flight recordings which Kiev confiscated.
William769
(55,147 posts)Do you have a link I could look at? From what I have heard there is a video showing Ukraine uniforms but the people speaking Russian.
Igel
(35,356 posts)They all--including those in the Donbas--speak it with a S. Russian accent.
It's mercilessly mocked in Moscow. Takes a little getting used to, if you're a foreigner.
As for the uniforms, that's fairly meaningless, to be honest. The only reason I think of them as Ukrainian government emergency workers is because the Ukr government says they were. Otherwise they might well have "sworn allegiance" to the DPR or simply be collecting government wages while taking DPR orders. The situation is really quite complicated if you're a government worker in DPR territory. Most of the police are paid out of Kiev or by the "official" government, even though they escort the DPR leadership and troops around town. (It's after the town falls that the government goes in and figures out what's up: Were the police just doing their jobs, were they so-so supporters and doing what was necessary, or were they active supporters and even fighters?)
The rebels said they'd be turning the black boxes over to the Malaysian delegation. That pretty much says who's had them for a while, whatever the obfuscation was.
William769
(55,147 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Not seen any videos but then I have no faith in Kiev's past Youtube fabrications / scams nor those of others come to that.
There is apparently one particular video concerning this subject which may well now be deleted by Kiev.
William769
(55,147 posts)I realize that you are not American but it's ok to have your doubts.
BTW that video is on the internet so that slight of hand with Ukraine making it disappear, won't cut it.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)What's most important now will be that Malaysia doesn't allow them into the hands of others outside of that state other than for closely obverved on the spot inspection.
William769
(55,147 posts)You don't think President Obama is capable of getting at the truth?
And let's be frank here, everyone know what kind of OP's you post here.
Have a nice day comrade.
Cha
(297,655 posts)RT at their word. Go figure.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Courtesy to recover the remains of their loved ones with s beyond cruel.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,240 posts)get what's coming to 'em.
lpbk2713
(42,766 posts)Now when forensic investigators talk about contaminated evidence
the seperatists will be quick to point and say "you did it, not us" .
Tarheel_Dem
(31,240 posts)in full out CT mode.
sheshe2
(83,898 posts)For now, may the families just mourn their loved ones in peace and dignity that has been denied them.
conservaphobe
(1,284 posts)desecrating the corpses, robbing them of their valuables, and rubbing salt in the wounds of grieving families for days.
riqster
(13,986 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,240 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Maybe they're still smarting from the grave robbing the evil bastards engaged in?
Cha
(297,655 posts)pressure must have been finally too much for them. Good.
Thanks she.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Reuters confirms.