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Viva_Daddy

(785 posts)
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 01:34 PM Jul 2014

Does anybody know what happened to US laws against War Profiteering?

It seems to me that the quickest way to reduce war would be to take the profit out of it. I know US used to have laws against war profiteering but I don't think their are still valid. If they are, they are not being enforced. Why not?

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Does anybody know what happened to US laws against War Profiteering? (Original Post) Viva_Daddy Jul 2014 OP
No, but I have a good idea who to ask! Turbineguy Jul 2014 #1
ask obama and congress who are supporting the military machine nt msongs Jul 2014 #2
Heard we have anti trust laws too abelenkpe Jul 2014 #3
This is a very good question. woo me with science Jul 2014 #4
I think WW2 happened - also referring to the Propoganda question el_bryanto Jul 2014 #5
Manipulation aimed at Americans is escalating and legalized under the Obama administration. woo me with science Jul 2014 #10
DU accepts a number of different view points - I'm not sure that's a bad thing. el_bryanto Jul 2014 #12
War profiteering is the United States' raison d'etre. [n/t] Maedhros Jul 2014 #6
Eggzaklee! Scuba Jul 2014 #11
Our largest export! BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #14
The Truman Committee johnnyreb Jul 2014 #7
Seems like this was the Bush administration's answer to everything... bluesbassman Jul 2014 #13
i think dubya did . . . by executive order. eom ellenfl Jul 2014 #8
Executive orders can't overrule laws. former9thward Jul 2014 #9
according to president obama's critics they do. eom ellenfl Jul 2014 #16
Yes, that is just a political point scoring. former9thward Jul 2014 #17
DiFi personally repealed it. nt Dreamer Tatum Jul 2014 #15

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
5. I think WW2 happened - also referring to the Propoganda question
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 01:48 PM
Jul 2014

WW2 had enormous propoganda efforts - and of course many companies made a lot of money off of world war 2.

It also depends on what you mean by war profiteering - at the time I think it was used on companies who would hike their prices because of the war.

But making money by selling the army stuff, that became a big business in WW2.

Bryant

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
10. Manipulation aimed at Americans is escalating and legalized under the Obama administration.
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 02:45 PM
Jul 2014

The appointment of Cass Sunstein was a disgrace. The NSA online programs purveying propaganda, disinformation and smear at American citizens are something we would expect from a totalitarian state, not the United States of America.

DU hosts, protects, and is thick with propaganda along the lines of the DLC/Third Way and their ilk.

IMO, one of the clearest signs of how deep into corruption our government and our political systems have sunk is the pervasiveness and normalization of this manipulative shit aimed at Americans...

...in a country whose government claims to be representative of the people.

Untold money is being poured into propaganda.

Obama taps "cognitive infiltrator" Cass Sunstein for Committee to create "trust" in NSA:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023512796

Salon: Obama confidant’s spine-chilling proposal: Cass Sunstein wants the government to "cognitively infiltrate" anti-government groups
http://www.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/

The US government's online campaigns of disinformation, manipulation, and smear.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024560097

Snowden: ‘Training Guide’ for GCHQ, NSA Agents Infiltrating and Disrupting Alternative Media Online
http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/02/25/snowden-training-guide-for-gchq-nsa-agents-infiltrating-and-disrupting-alternative-media-online/

The influx of corporate propaganda-spouting posters is blatant and unnatural.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3189367

U.S. Repeals Propaganda Ban, Spreads Government-Made News To Americans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023262111

The goal of the propaganda assaults across the internet is not to convince anyone of anything.*
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023359801

The government figured out sockpuppet management but not "persona management."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023358242

The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4159454

Seventeen techniques for truth suppression.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4249741

Just do some Googling on astroturfing - big organizations have some sophisticated tools.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1208351

Greenwald: Leaked Docs Reveal Agency's (GCHQ) Digital Propaganda Toolkit
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025241916[/div class="excerpt"]




el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
12. DU accepts a number of different view points - I'm not sure that's a bad thing.
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 03:18 PM
Jul 2014

But then again I don't think posters who are pro-Hillary are necessarily sock puppets - while I find Hillary Clinton to be a middle of the road, pro-wall street candidate, I can see why others might be attracted to her.

Bryant

johnnyreb

(915 posts)
7. The Truman Committee
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 02:16 PM
Jul 2014
The Truman Committee, formally known as the Senate Special Committee to Investigate the National Defense Program, was a United States Congressional investigative body headed by Senator Harry S. Truman.[1] The bipartisan special committee was formed in March 1941 to find and correct problems in US war production—problems with waste, inefficiency and war profiteering. The Truman Committee proved to be one of the most successful investigative efforts ever mounted by the US government:
(....)
Truman heard about needless waste and profiteering from construction of Fort Leonard Wood in his home state of Missouri, and he determined to see for himself what was going on. He traveled in his personal Dodge car not only to Missouri but to various military installations from Florida through the Midwest; approximately 10,000 mi (16,000 km) of driving. Everywhere he went he saw hard-luck poverty among the working people contrasted with millions of government dollars going to military contractors.
(....)
Truman's record of stopping war profiteering in the 1940s was said to be "the most famous and the most successful" example, a model needed as a corrective measure to stem US military contractor improprieties in the War on Terror.[47] The problem was still not solved by 2007 when Senator Charles Schumer wrote, "The lesson of the Truman Committee is sorely in need of learning today".[42] He described how Republican Representatives blocked "for more than a year" a bipartisan proposal for an investigative committee to look into military "scandals and abuses" in Iraq.[42] When Senators Jim Webb of Virginia and Claire McCaskill of Missouri – who held the same Senate seat as Truman did – formed a Truman-type committee in January 2008, the Commission on Wartime Contracting in Iraq and Afghanistan, President Bush said it was "a threat to national security."[42]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truman_Committee

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bluesbassman

(19,379 posts)
13. Seems like this was the Bush administration's answer to everything...
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 03:45 PM
Jul 2014
When Senators Jim Webb of Virginia and Claire McCaskill of Missouri – who held the same Senate seat as Truman did – formed a Truman-type committee in January 2008, the Commission on Wartime Contracting in Iraq and Afghanistan, President Bush said it was "a threat to national security."


Unfortunately that line of thinking continues in varying degrees and application to this day.

former9thward

(32,082 posts)
17. Yes, that is just a political point scoring.
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 09:16 AM
Jul 2014

The same as was done to Bush in similar circumstances. Politics does not necessarily conform to reality especially since the American public is not well educated on our system and politicians know that.

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