Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s Twisted Anti-Vaxx History
If you’re headed to Capitol Hill with a cause, it helps to be a Kennedy.
For Robert Kennedy Jr., scion of America’s most storied political family, all it takes is his name to arrange face-to-face meetings with two powerful Senators. As a physician who has traveled to Washington, D.C., with health-care advocacy groups on a number of occasions, I envy the access he displays in a recent profile in The Washington Post. The best we mere doctors usually hope for is time with aides of varying seniority.
Given the ease with which he moves through the corridors of power, one might wish that Kennedy would use his time wisely. Sadly, that is not the case. As Keith Kloor reports, he spends his meetings with Senators Barbara Mikulski and Bernie Sanders making the case that thimerosal (a component in vaccines, now scarcely used) is linked to autism.
This is not true. The possible link between thimerosal and autism has been investigated and found not to exist in study after study after study. The American Academy of Pediatrics gladly provides evidence [pdf] from around the globe that demonstrates no causal relationship between exposure to thimerosal and developing autism. Despite never having been a link between the two, the ingredient was removed from childhood vaccines entirely in 2003 out of caution, though it is occasionally still used in some flu vaccines.
But none of this stops Kennedy from trafficking in slander and nonsense. As the Post article makes painfully clear, for years he has been perfectly happy to accuse researchers and public health officials of fraud. After being called out for this in Slate last year, he called editor Laura Helmuth to complain, telling her “scientists and government agencies are conspiring with the vaccine industry to cover up the evidence that thimerosal is ‘the most potent brain killer imaginable.’”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/23/robert-f-kennedy-jr-s-twisted-anti-vaxx-history.html
What will it take to make him stop? Maybe, if enough people know that he's a loon on this topic, he'll fade away to irrelevency.
Sid
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“using online techniques to make something happen in the real or cyber world,” including “information ops (influence or disruption).”
Source: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/
The same NSA that unconstitutionally spies on Americans also gets to propagandize Americans. Not that they've found DU, but thanks to Corporate McPravda, who'd have known about any of this without WikiLeaks and Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and his sister, Rory?
Remember...2013 was supposed to the year the Kennedy kids revealed all!
"Kennedy hate"
trying to help you understand that it isn't.
Kennedy hate, yes, are you not familiar with it? You should be, it's apparently making its way to DU now.
It goes like this, I've watched it for years so I'm kind of an expert on the subject. Not on Dem forums of course.
But anyhow, 'pick a topic, a legitimate topic, like HC, or Civil Rights, or the Environment, eg. Make sure a Kennedy has commented on the topic. Then 'expose' the Dem as a 'fraud', an 'asshole'. You get to do that IF the topic is legitimate, regardless of whether the target is correct or not. You can't just come out and say 'I hate the Kennedys'. You need a topic so you are free to do so. Hope that helps.
And I remember Democrats like Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.'s father and uncle. They worked to bring peace and prosperity to ALL Americans.
Something else: I heard RFK, Jr. speak in Detroit a few years back.
Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. called George W Bush "that sonofabitch" and said the guy was a crook, turning over the government to the lobbyists and gangsters who've emptied our Treasury, polluted our water, land, air and children, and used humanity as cannon fodder and slave labor.
He also pegged ABCNNBCBSFoxNoiseNutwork for what they are. Among other things, he called Antonin Scalia the son of a Nazi and explained why. I would've taken notes, but I wanted to hear everything the guy said.
Georgia law professor emeritus Donald E. Wilkes:
DESTINY BETRAYED:
THE CIA, OSWALD, AND
THE JFK ASSASSINATION
Published in Flagpole Magazine, p. 8 (Dec. 7, 2005).
Author: Donald E. Wilkes, Jr., Professor of Law, University of Georgia School of Law.
In place of the strong sense of faith in man and mankind, we now have a heavy feeling of a failed mission, of destiny betrayed and unfulfilled. – Rav Alex Israel
The deepest cover story of the CIA is that it is an intelligence organization. – Bulletin of the Federation of American Scientists
Today, 42 years after President John F. Kennedy was assassinated in Dealey Plaza in Dallas, Texas, on November 22, 1963, few responsible researchers who have studied JFK’s murder accept the Warren Commission’s main conclusion that Lee Harvey Oswald, acting alone, committed the crime. (The Warren Commission was the body appointed by President Lyndon B. Johnson to investigate the Kennedy assassination; it released its Report in September 1964.) As these researchers have shown again and again in scores of books and articles, evidence available to the Commission but improperly evaluated, erroneously rejected, or simply not pursued by that body, together with new evidence unavailable to the Commission, discredits the principal finding of the Warren Report. JFK’s death was, these researchers believe, carried out by a conspiracy; it was not the act of a lone assassin. Different researchers, however, have different conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theorists also disagree about Oswald: some maintain that he was simply one of the conspirators; others claim that, while he was a member of the conspiracy, he was also unknowingly a dupe of the other conspirators who intended for him to be the fall guy; and still other theorists think that Oswald was a wholly innocent person set up by the conspirators as the patsy. Furthermore, the theorists who regard Oswald as a conspirator disagree as to whether he fired any of the shots in Dealey Plaza.
SNIP...
The theory that JFK’s murder was engineered by the CIA (or by persons affiliated with the CIA), and that the CIA covered up its connections to the murder, warrants serious consideration and should not be peremptorily rejected. In the 1960’s the CIA more resembled an untouchable crime syndicate than a legitimate government entity. Lavishly but secretly funded, unrestrained by public opinion, cloaked in secrecy, conducting whatever foreign or domestic clandestine operations it wished without regard to laws or morals, and specializing in deception, falsification, and mystification, the CIA was riddled at all levels with ruthless, cynical officials and employees who believed that they were above the law, that any means were justified to accomplish the goals they set for themselves, and that insofar as their surreptitious activities were concerned it was justifiable to lie with impunity to anyone, even presidents and legislators. Many of these individuals, thinking he was soft on communism, that he would reduce the size of the military industrial complex, and that he was to blame for the Bay of Pigs disaster (the failed CIA-sponsored invasion of Cuba in 1961), hated and despised Kennedy. The CIA routinely circumvented and defied attempts by the executive and legislative branches to monitor its activities. It was involved in innumerable unlawful or outrageous activities. It illegally opened the mail of Americans. It interfered with free elections in foreign countries and arranged to destabilize or overthrow the governments of other countries. It plotted the murder of various foreign leaders. It arranged to hire the Mafia to help with some of these proposed murder plots. It unlawfully stored–in quantities, UGA political science professor Loch K. Johnson notes, sufficient “to destroy the population of a small city”–exotic toxic agents, including cobra venom and shellfish toxin, for the purpose of committing murders. It manufactured and used sinister lethal weaponry, including what Prof. Johnson calls “the ultimate murder weapon,” an electric handgun (the CIA called it a “noise-free disseminator”) with a telescopic sight which could noiselessly and accurately fire poison-tipped darts (the CIA called them “nondiscernible microbioinoculators”) up to a distance of 250 feet. It undoubtedly carried out multiple secret murders and other heinous crimes which it successfully kept hidden. Furthermore, it is now firmly established that after the JFK assassination the CIA simultaneously lied to, and withheld important information from, the Warren Commission.
One of the first serious investigators to raise credible claims that CIA operatives or ex-CIA operatives were involved in the JFK assassination was Jim Garrison, who served as the district attorney in New Orleans, Louisiana from 1962 to 1974. (A brief chronology of Garrison’s life and investigation is set forth at the end of this article.) Garrison and his office investigated the assassination for about five years, from late 1966 until early 1971. His investigation led Garrison to believe that, regardless of whoever actually fired the shots in Dealey Plaza, the assassination was the result of a plot hatched in New Orleans by persons with CIA connections. Furthermore, Garrison concluded, following the assassination the CIA engaged in a coverup to protect itself and the assassins. Garrison brought to trial the only criminal proceeding in which someone was actually charged with involvement in the JFK assassination. Garrison wrote two important books, the first published in 1970, the second in 1988, in which he recounted his investigation and shared the important new facts he had discovered.
In the words of journalist Fred Powledge, who wrote a magazine article on Garrison published in 1967, Garrison thought that “the assassins were CIA employees who were angered at President Kennedy’s posture on Cuba following the Bay of Pigs disaster, and that the CIA was frustrating his investigation, although the agency knew the whereabouts of the assassins.” Philosophy professor Richard H. Popkin, in another magazine article published in 1967, summarized Garrison’s views on the assassination as follows: “The thesis Garrison has set forth is that a group of New Orleans-based, anti-Castroites, supported and/or encouraged by the CIA in their anti-Castro activities, in the late summer or early fall of 1963 conspired to assassinate John F. Kennedy. This group, according to Garrison, included (Clay) Shaw, (David) Ferrie, (Lee Harvey) Oswald, ... and others, including Cuban exiles and American anti-Castroites.... (T)heir plan was executed in Dallas on November 22, 1963. At least part of their motivation ... was their reaction to Kennedy’s decisions at the Bay of Pigs and the changes in U.S. policy toward Cuba following the missiles crisis of 1962.”
In a 1967 interview, Garrison himself phrased his basic conclusions this way: “(A) number of the men who killed the President were former employees of the CIA involved in its anti-Castro underground activities in and around New Orleans.... We must assume that the plotters were acting on their own rather than on CIA orders when they killed the President. As far as we been able to determine, they were not on the pay of the CIA at the time of the assassination.... The CIA could not face up to the American people and admit that its former employees had conspired to assassinate the President, so from the moment Kennedy’s heart stopped beating, the Agency attempted to sweep the whole conspiracy under the rug.... In this respect, it has become an accessory after the fact in the assassination.”
CONTINUED...
http://www.law.uga.edu/dwilkes_more/jfk_22destiny.html
Prof. Wilkes' bibiliography is an excellent survey of what was available at the time of his writing that article. Several new works have been published since. I'll try to get back and recommend them to you when I get the time. The point is I stand with the Kennedys. And Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. called Antonin Scalia a fascist and called George Bush a "son of a bitch." I feel he is correct on both of those counts.
It's hearsay that can't be backed up by anything.
It also has nothinng to do with the topic of this thread.
DU doing fine!
That's what his son and daughter, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Rory Kennedy, reported in an interview with Charlie Rose last weekend in Dallas.
It's also what author and Salon founder David Talbot reported, when he called Robert F. Kennedy the "first conspiracy theorist" in 2007.
Here's why the news from Robert and Rory is so important:
RFK called the Warren Commission report "shoddy workmanship."
Attorney General Kennedy knew about the Ruby-Mafia connections immediately, which is vital when considering the Mafia were hired by Allen Dulles and the CIA during Eisenhower's administration to murder Fidel Castro -- an operation which the CIA failed to inform the president and attorney general.
The interview with Charlie Rose marked the first time members of the immediate Kennedy family have voiced the attorney general's doubts about the Warren Commission and its lone gunman theory.
Those are the facts we learned Friday, Jan. 11, 2013. It's called history.
Original OP in which you commented. This one, though, really got your goat:
Mass Media ignoring 'RFK Believed in Conspiracy' shows corrupt nature of America's Press
Why does RFK mentioning his uncle, the president, was murdered by a conspiracy bother you so much, SidDithers of Du?
Sid
...which pretty much was the extent of the coverage during the 50th anniversary. One would think, instead, the US news media would follow up on this:
Mass Media ignoring 'RFK Believed in Conspiracy' shows corrupt nature of America's Press
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and his sister Rory Kennedy told Charlie Rose that their father, the Attorney General of the United States, Robert F. Kennedy, believed there was a conspiracy behind the death of his brother, President John F. Kennedy. For the first time in almost 50 years, members of the slain president's family were on the record about their father's thoughts about the assassination.
The story made news, as it were, for a day or two -- it was on page 8 here in Detroit (try finding it using The Free Press or Detroit News web site search engines) -- and apart from several threads on DU, that's about it as coverage goes. The Charlie Rose interview was part of a program put together by the media and good people in Dallas to celebrate JFK's life.
What bothers me about the media coverage is the constant attack, not on the government's lousy investigation of the assassination and its attendant cover-up, but, rather, the attack on anyone who brings up the subject of conspiracy in the death of the president, even when it's children of attorney general who also was the brother of the slain president.
Check out this condescending piece of opinion from the Dallas Observer:
Not Even Charlie Rose Could Rein in RFK Jr. in Dallas Last Night. Also: Conspiracy Theories!
By Betsy Lewis Sat., Jan. 12 2013 at 11:01 AM
It got weird when he went into a historical lecture about his father's investigation into the JFK assassination. He was speaking about it as if he had been part of it, then cited a book called The Unspeakable by Jim Douglas (sic - actually "JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters" by James Douglass) as being the best book on the subject, then kept referencing things from the book. He was losing the audience, so he burst out, "My father believed that the Warren Report was a shoddy piece of craftsmanship," to the delighted applause of the mostly Baby Boomer audience.
Whenever Charlie Rose would ask about the family, RFK Jr. would evade the question until he heard either delighted Boomer applause or delighted Boomer laughter. One of his responses to a family question was an unrelated story about World War II. A lady behind me who must have recently Netflixed The Iron Lady kept saying, "Here here!" for the benefit of us unfortunate people around her.
Some of the strangest RFK Jr. outbursts with the biggest applause were:
"We're becoming a national security state!" (applause, "Here here!"
"Corporations want profits!" (applause, "Here here!"
"Corporations are great things, but we'd be nuts to let them run our government!" (applause, "Here here!"
"Nationalism in Africa! The end of colonialism!"
At this point, I don't think anyone knew what the hell he was talking about. It was something about the Kennedy family airlifting President Obama's father out of Kenya to begin a new life in America.
RFK Jr.: "Yes."
CONTINUED...
http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/mixmaster/2013/01/charlie_rose_live_the_kennedy.php
Me, I don't believe any of that stuff was "out there." Why writer Betsy Lewis chooses to believe what the media tell her is true I'll guess lies in allegiance to a pay check.
Likewise for the lack of coverage given the story in the national media, where the same few corporations that swore up and down there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, both in 1990 and 2002, now want no part of "conspiracy talk" during the 50th anniversary observance. So far, as far as I'm aware, the Charlie Rose program has not aired.
What's more telling is what didn't get noted in the nation's corrupt mass media at all: The fact that Attorney General and later Senator Robert F. Kennedy also was assassinated. Some think that was a coincidence, because the mass media told them so. One thing's for certain, the questions still surrounding the deaths of two liberal icons doesn't get discussed at all today in our supposedly "free press."
So. Where in the mass media have you seen mentioned that Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy believed his brother was assassinated by a conspiracy?
Me? I would think a DUer would be interested in that, so I bring it up.
who has a neighbor who worked for RFK.
And she says she heard it was a conspiracy to kill JFK and RFK.
Good enough for me!
Post some ageofautism next.
Sid
so he set up shop in Texas instead.
Amazingly, Wakefield has his defenders at DU too.
Sid
Sid
If you jump off a building, you're absolutely going to fall to the earth.
If you grab the business end of a red-hot poker, you're absolutely going to burn your hand.
There are plenty of things that are absolute.
The people who say "nothing is absolute" are not good liberals, they're people who's mind is so open that their brain has fallen out.
Sid
Like making up "groups" to put people in so you can ignore their alerts?
Or accusing DUers of having a "boss" here that tells them what to do?
Or calling anyone that disagrees with you "an authoritarian"?
Antics like that, Rick?
Thanks for sharing. I'm going to dig into it further, now.
Not gonna tell me who my boss is, Rick?
C'mon...I want to get paid!
No one has researched the exact causes of autism and we may never know for hundreds of years. I think it's pretty much a given in an educated civilized society that these heavy metals shouldn't be around any developing brains, nervous systems.
Besides mercury use in human medicines is released into sewage systems and adds to the environmental contamination from mercury., 3% a year according to studies comes from "3.0% from waste disposal, including municipal and hazardous waste, crematoria, and sewage sludge incineration."
about 80% of mercury contamination comes from the coal burn for power- industry and gold mining. And volcanos!, interesting!
edit source- 'Mercury in Ice Core Upper Fremont Glacier' Public Domain
U.S. Geological Survey
