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Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 05:26 PM Jul 2014

Since Fifty Shades of Grey is insipid fanfic garbage...

What do folks recommend as good erotica? Either in film or novel form?

I've long enjoyed the works of Selena Kitt in her writings, but there's enough stuff to make people squick in there that I don't recommend it regularly. Same with the movie Secretary, though it's definitely lead to some great discussions.

I've been reading erotica of all sorts since a teen and continue to do so well into my adulthood since you can find great things to read with your partner (hell, the old penthouse letters could do that too!) and it can lead to some great exploring.

So rather than the constant beatdown that Fifty Shades is (so rightly) getting, how about some positive material recommendations?

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Since Fifty Shades of Grey is insipid fanfic garbage... (Original Post) Blue_Adept Jul 2014 OP
Anything with Ron Jeremy ret5hd Jul 2014 #1
There's always Bigfoot porn. VScott Jul 2014 #2
Was thinking of writing some of that. DirkGently Jul 2014 #4
You've heard the saying "laughing all the ways to the bank" VScott Jul 2014 #5
An Adventure in the Yolla Bolly Middle Eel Wilderness by Vance Aandahl Wolf Frankula Jul 2014 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author MerryBlooms Jul 2014 #3
Sadly Blue_Adept Jul 2014 #6
Have you read or seen "Henry and June"? betsuni Jul 2014 #7
I did see the movie Blue_Adept Jul 2014 #19
Penthouse Letters FTW! nt Bonobo Jul 2014 #8
Those do have their moments. Blue_Adept Jul 2014 #10
Anything Juggalo related does the trick for the serious minded. AngryAmish Jul 2014 #11
All that Faygo spraying - it's outta control. lovemydog Jul 2014 #30
I recommend we all write our own erotica. eShirl Jul 2014 #12
Or live it out? FSogol Jul 2014 #23
Sometimes we need inspiration Blue_Adept Jul 2014 #24
My relationship to GD started slowly. At first a few quick glances. lovemydog Jul 2014 #26
For BDSM? "The Story OF O", "Man With A Maid" or "Claiming of Sleeping Beauty" Katashi_itto Jul 2014 #13
Was that last one the Anne Rice one? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #28
Yeah I agree most of her novels are pretty awful Katashi_itto Jul 2014 #35
Try Tymber Dalton (e-books) brooklynite Jul 2014 #14
Thanks! Blue_Adept Jul 2014 #15
People are so idiosyncratic as to what is a turn-on-- eridani Jul 2014 #16
Nobody is looking for universal approval Blue_Adept Jul 2014 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Blue_Adept Jul 2014 #17
Kinda old school but surprised no one has mentioned Anais Nin justiceischeap Jul 2014 #20
I did. betsuni Jul 2014 #22
Oops, missed that! justiceischeap Jul 2014 #25
I'd suggest finding blogs that cover stuff that you enjoy, and going from there. lovemydog Jul 2014 #21
How explicit are you looking for? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #27
try Anne Rice's Beauty trilogy bedazzled Jul 2014 #29
It appears that you are using "fanfic" as a pejorative term. Coventina Jul 2014 #31
I've been involved in fanfic for about 25 years to varying degrees Blue_Adept Jul 2014 #32
No arguments that a lot of it is truly terrible. Coventina Jul 2014 #33
oh definitely Blue_Adept Jul 2014 #34

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
4. Was thinking of writing some of that.
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 06:47 PM
Jul 2014

Never tried porn OR erotica, for that matter, but these people are cleaning up self-publishing e-books for Amazon. Bigfoot porn, dinosaur porn, monster porn. The titles kill me. "Ravaged by the Raptor," etc. Virginia Wade told Forbes or someone that she's raking in $30,000 a month writing that Bigfoot stuff.

"Choked by the Chupacabra?" "Licked by the Loch Ness Monster?"

It would have to be funny though. Don't see how anyone writes those with a straight face.

 

VScott

(774 posts)
5. You've heard the saying "laughing all the ways to the bank"
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 06:59 PM
Jul 2014
Don't see how anyone writes those with a straight face.

Wolf Frankula

(3,601 posts)
9. An Adventure in the Yolla Bolly Middle Eel Wilderness by Vance Aandahl
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 12:34 AM
Jul 2014

A man lost in the woods has sex with a female Bigfoot. She accidentally kills him. Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, August 1969.

Wolf

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Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
6. Sadly
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 07:05 PM
Jul 2014

I don't think we'll get much in the way of recommendations here, which is unfortunate. I'd love to get some new recs outside of the usual audience.

betsuni

(25,554 posts)
7. Have you read or seen "Henry and June"?
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 12:14 AM
Jul 2014

The unedited diaries of Anais Nin and her relationship with Henry and June Miller. I loved the movie version. So sensual, REAL sensuality. Please see it! Music is great. The first time I saw "Nine and 1/2 Weeks" it made me sad, but now I appreciate the great visuals, the 80s New York art scene, music, clothes, and Kim Bassinger's beauty.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
19. I did see the movie
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 07:35 AM
Jul 2014

But I didn't read the book. Nine and 1/2 weeks is interesting as well, especially as you say with the visuals. I adore Wild Orchid for its mix of visuals and music and still revisit it as a great piece of filmed mainstream erotica.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
10. Those do have their moments.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 06:17 AM
Jul 2014

Though with the plethora of new authors out there, I keep hoping for some recs.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
24. Sometimes we need inspiration
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 08:28 AM
Jul 2014

There's certainly things I've taken from erotica and film and brought into my own life.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
26. My relationship to GD started slowly. At first a few quick glances.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 08:33 AM
Jul 2014

A laugh here, a sigh there. I felt I'd found friends who shared similar political, social and cultural beliefs. What a relief. What joy. Over time I read more. One day in a fit of curiosity I mustered the courage to join DU and begin posting. Most were very nice. They warned me to go slow. Take it easy. Establish some credibility. I heeded their advice. A nice comment here, a rah rah there. This proceeded for about a year. As I built up my post count, so I built up confidence and trust. Gradually, inexorably, I became immersed. Speed-reading threads. Giving and receiving abuse. Getting beat up for deviating from the norm. I can't say I enjoyed it. But it was impossible to stop. It was like a train wreck. Too often, I was the train....

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
28. Was that last one the Anne Rice one?
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 09:08 AM
Jul 2014

I really can't stand most of her stuff. She took the most racy stuff and made it some of the most boring things I've ever read in the 'Beauty' books. Ditto most of the 'Vampire' books. 'The Mummy' was probably the only thing of hers I've read that was consistently well written.

brooklynite

(94,624 posts)
14. Try Tymber Dalton (e-books)
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 07:05 AM
Jul 2014

...particularly her "Seacoast Society" books. BDSN-themed, but a lot more relationship-based character development.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
15. Thanks!
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 07:22 AM
Jul 2014

The character side is what makes everything else work, so have some good development and story is what I look for.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
16. People are so idiosyncratic as to what is a turn-on--
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 07:31 AM
Jul 2014

--that is it just about impossible to recommend any erotica that will get universal approval.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
18. Nobody is looking for universal approval
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 07:33 AM
Jul 2014

Just suggestions, which can work for some but not others. There's so much focus on the awful, why not a little discussion/recommendations on what's actually good?

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justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
20. Kinda old school but surprised no one has mentioned Anais Nin
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 07:40 AM
Jul 2014

She kind of epitomizes well-written erotica to me.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
21. I'd suggest finding blogs that cover stuff that you enjoy, and going from there.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 07:57 AM
Jul 2014

I prefer the super old school books like Autobiography of a Flea. Old school movies like The Opening of Misty Beethoven. Just as an example, from those you can go off on digressions into Victorian literature and golden age classic porn that are very well-covered on the net. Google and Bing are your friend. There's lots of tumblir sites that have erotic images & movies. Reddit probably has some good subthreads. Amazon and netflix too. There's some search engines like nudevista that focus more on hardcore but also have searches for erotica or vintage. But one person's erotica is another's outrage. Tastes vary wildly, so it's impossible to recommend a lot that will suit your tastes. Hope this helps a bit. Best of luck!

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
27. How explicit are you looking for?
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 09:05 AM
Jul 2014

Some of the Tinto Brass films are pretty decent, but you might have to strip the country encoding off your DVD player if DVD's are still doing that.

bedazzled

(1,767 posts)
29. try Anne Rice's Beauty trilogy
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 09:52 AM
Jul 2014

i think it's a little more explicit than that shades of gray junk but it's very well written, and has a sense of humor...

Coventina

(27,129 posts)
31. It appears that you are using "fanfic" as a pejorative term.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:09 AM
Jul 2014

As a writer and reader of fanfic, I object to that.

Good and bad writing exists in all genres.
Yes, there is a lot of garbage in the fanfic world, as it is a genre largely populated by amateurs, but that doesn't mean that great fanfic doesn't exist.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
32. I've been involved in fanfic for about 25 years to varying degrees
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:11 AM
Jul 2014

Yeah, I could have phrased it differently. But I was going with what the general dialogue about it was.

But like everything else, there's an awful lot of trash. And the original fanfic work that she wrote is awful garbage.

I've only had a couple of fanfics over the years that I've stuck with - and largely continuations of anime series at that - but I'm definitely aware of the culture and some of the great works that it does.

Coventina

(27,129 posts)
33. No arguments that a lot of it is truly terrible.
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 11:20 AM
Jul 2014

On the positive side, it is a genre that does welcome and nurture new writers.
I know that my own writing has improved tremendously since I began to write FF.

In the "FSOG" case, I confess I haven't read it. I don't plan on ever reading it simply because of its "Twilight" roots.
Anything that has sparkly vampires as source material is not something I can take seriously.

As a fanfic reader I'm sure you're familiar with the term "crack."
I don't read or write "crack," so Twilight is a non-starter with me.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
34. oh definitely
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 12:16 PM
Jul 2014

One of the first things you learn as a writer is write what you know. and fans heavily invested in a show, book or property tend to be really into it. It's a great way to step into the world of writing and find your own voice afterward.

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