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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFor the FIRST TIME IN HISTORY, The House has voted to sue a sitting president.
Even more ironic, they are suing him for doing what EVERY PRESIDENT IN HISTORY HAS DONE!
So remind me again what the difference between this president and the 42 guys who held the office before him is?
Oh,...yeah. I remember.
randys1
(16,286 posts)Every single oppostion to Obama from the right as opposed to from the left is based SOLELY in racism
period
madokie
(51,076 posts)And it pisses me off. I'm an old white dude too who voted for this President once in the primary, once for election to the Presidency and once more to re-elect him. I don't throw away votes either, I'm serious as death with my voting and always have been.
tanyev
(42,634 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)dballance
(5,756 posts)The GOP knows from their experience with Clinton that impeachment is not a popular gambit with voters.
They just wish to use any method possible to tarnish Obama. Except, well, the Constitutionally mandated ones.
This suit will backfire on them.
There is no doubt that any court will not take this seriously and not wish to set the precedent of allowing Congress to sue the President. That is, unless, it's the 5-4 majority on SCOTUS.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)The administration will move to dismiss on the basis that the House and Boehner have no standing to bring such a lawsuit and that if they truly believe the president has acted in a lawless manner the remedy is spelled out quite clearly in Article I., Section 2., Clause 5 and Article II., Section 4. of the United States Constitution.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)We have peace , prosperity ... oh wait .... this is an egregious waste of legislative time and tax payer money
Complete A$$-holes
Brigid
(17,621 posts)What future generations are going to think of this bunch of gobshites.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)Does it have to go to the Senate or is it only the House that sues? What if any federal court would it have to go to? Or is it just a stunt?
Brigid
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former9thward
(32,097 posts)It will probably be filed in the DC District court although it could be filed in another district court. Like most things in DC it is just a stunt.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Kablooie
(18,641 posts)A Republican judge won't let a little thing like the law stand in his way.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Standing is a very well established concept in the law.
There can be no demonstration that the House, or Boehner, has suffered damages from Obama's order pushing back the date when certain corporations were required to provide healthcare coverage for their employees. The only people who have actual standing and can demonstrate said damages are employees of those corporations allowed to put off the implementation.
No judge who wishes to be taken seriously in the future is going to allow a case to proceed when the plaintiff has no standing.
It's so important that not a single Birther case proceeded due to the lack of standing.
Kablooie
(18,641 posts)I'd bet that the rightwing toadies turn on him declaring him an activist judge who thinks protecting Obama is more important than following the law.
The judge who gets this case will probably suffer public slanders no matter what he decides.
cornball 24
(1,481 posts)You have established for us a dangerous precedent
By electing this man as our great nation's president.
How dare this man want healthcare for all!
The sheer nerve of him and the utter gall.
So please vote for someone who is part of the niche
Who will spend his whole term taking care of the rich.
icymist
(15,888 posts)Oh, and welcome to the DU BTW.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,446 posts)We don't sue and/or impeach Presidents for starting misbegotten wars in which thousands of American soldiers are killed and maimed, countless foreign civilians are killed or maimed, our prisoners are tortured (just like they were in the regime that we swore we had to replace partly because of it), and almost all of the reasons that we went to war proved to be totally WRONG!
Oh hells no!
Here, we sue and/or impeach Presidents for lying under oath about consensual adult sexual relationships in a matter that had absolutely nothing to do with official conduct or disagreements over how a health reform law mandate gets implemented.
Why?
Because, this is America and a lot of voters are letting Republicans run amok and trashing our government because they're a bunch of whiny sore losers.
USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)2 posts, and you've already flamed out.
Gore1FL
(21,156 posts)Making fun of Right Wingers is acceptable behavior here.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Read it too fast.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)one_voice
(20,043 posts)Gore1FL
(21,156 posts)I always enjoy a good limerick.
Welcome to DU.
Rhiannon12866
(206,247 posts)Welcome to DU!
former9thward
(32,097 posts)http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/gop-led-house-ready-lawsuit-obama-24767773
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)The lawsuit mentioned in tha ABC article was by the House Judiciary Committee and was limited in scope.
This is the ENTIRE HOUSE suing the president.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)leadership ever. The pumpkin man should never even have brought it up as an issue, when other dire issues like unemployment benefits are ignored.
Baitball Blogger
(46,768 posts)They must be getting positive reinforcement from some circles in order to continue these lame strategies.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Oh wait, they're not?
Then the House can officially go fuck themselves.
FSogol
(45,553 posts)How f'ed up is that?
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)Because Congress doesn't want to be reminded of the Israeli-Gaza war...This is not a publicity stunt, it's a distraction....
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)a few months before an off year election.
Just what I wanted for my birthday! Obama's name on the ballot this fall!
Baitball Blogger
(46,768 posts)Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)That's something else they can put on their resume when they are looking for a new job next January.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)pay for this in the fall..stupid bastards.
Rex
(65,616 posts)And the GOP Congress critters plan on spending NO TIME working this year! Sick people with power over others lives.
Cha
(297,791 posts)The next reason I object to this lawsuit is P, Political Stunt. Aimed at appeasing the fringe elements in the Republican Party that want to impeach the President. The same people calling for this lawsuit shutdown the government last fall because they wanted to delay the Affordable Care Act and it cost us over 24 billion dollars. So now they are suing the President over the fact that he did something they wanted him to do it in the first place. The only people I know who scream that they want something then throw a tantrum when they get it are toddlers.
GOPetulant toddlers
gop: "Obama delaying Employer Mandate "