Everything that I have read says that either the doctor or the aide will be coming, and Emory will be getting a patient within the next couple of days. They can't identify which of the two they are getting due to HIPAA regulations.

The plane to pick up the patient left for Liberia earlier today, around 5pm est iirc.

That means three to me.

At any rate, it clearly is more than one now.

Nt

There are plans to transfer *a patient* not "another"

IOW, one of the Samaritan Ebola patients is going to be shipped to the US and there are plans to transfer an ebola patient to Emory.

They are hoping to bring both back, but will bring them one at a time, probably because there is only one isolation unit.

Wow.
Makes one really safe and prepared, doesn't it?

to the Samaritan group.

Aeromedical Biological Containment System



The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has outfitted a Gulfstream jet with an isolation pod designed and built by the U.S. Defense Department, the CDC and a private company. The pod, officially called an Aeromedical Biological Containment System, is a portable, tentlike device that ensures the flight crew and others on the flight remain safe from an infectious disease.

Tracking Ebola patient's journey to U.S.
A U.S.-contracted medical charter flight left Cartersville, Georgia, Thursday afternoon, to evacuate the Americans, a source familiar with the travel plans told CNN. At least one of them will be brought to Emory University near the headquarters of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, Georgia, hospital officials told CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/31/health/ebola-isolation-treatment/index.html?iid=article_sidebar

Are they seriously going to pick up one patient, fly him/her to the US, then go back for the other one? Why can't they stick both of them in the pod?

CDC. Or maybe only one ready to go right now. But they are transporting them one at a time.

And no, they cannot share a pod. They have to be isolated, and that means from each other as well. For one thing, you cannot have them cross-contaminating each other. For another, there has to be enough room in there for caretakers to fit in there and move around in all their biohazard gear.

so they were going to first fly out the person in better shape to make the trip. No one would be flown if the flight itself would put him or her at too high an additional risk.

Nancy Writebol was too sick to have traveled, per the previous news articles, I thought.

The fact that Nancy still came on a stretcher, despite receiving two doses of the serum and being in "improved" condition for travel, sounds like she's having a tougher go of it than the younger doctor.

in an isolation unit there. That was someone who was in West Africa and who flew home on a scheduled airliner. The diagnosis isn't in yet, but many people have flown here from West Africa recently.

What is being learned at Emory University Hospital may well be very important, I think. Are you at risk from Ebola? Almost certainly not, unless you have a trip to West Africa planned soon or you are a health care worker who is helping out in the isolation unit.

I'm sure they'll get good care. If it gets loose and into the general population, there won't be any liability, as I understand there are already plenty of other possible vectors, folks who are likely carriers, already in the U.S. So, essentially no worries to corporate.

when they come here, and end up in the ED after they've arrived.

I live in a tourist area and it is our high season. Probably half the people who come into our ED this time of year are from "away."

I can't beleive the freak out over something that isn't happening...by that I mean the presumed pandemic and inability of science to contain and look for a cure.

The story appears to be badly edited

And I assume those coming home will be given the best of available treatment and associated infection precautions.

to believe.

Sensational hype and misinformation are part and parcel of this.

Five people sharing a taxi with Ebola infected woman got Ebola and died.

in that situation. I don't remember ever being in a taxi with four other people, do you? I'd wait for the next cab, I think, in any circumstance.

Don't spoil a good panic!

It's a cage match.

until the next bit of "sky" falls lol.

And he still got it and died.

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And hey, they're usually right about everything. Like the one in this thread who posts anti-Elizabeth Warren OPs every day. Or the one in the other thread who's an ex-Freeper.

Edit for clarification: I'm mocking DU's usual "experts in every area" here, not expressing "panic" at patients being treated in the US. And no, Cali Democrat, I didn't write any hate mail to Emory

Now there are 3!

This is the CDC, which has actual expert -- dare I say, world-class -- epidemiologists handling this.

The tendency for panic on this topic here is probably misplaced.

CDC == Center for Disease Control.

That among those concerned, there are those who believe the CDC was in on the conspiracy to invent AIDS, and has been covering it up for years. So this is not comforting to them.

but I don't think Alex Jones posts on DU too often.



(Actually the CDC was founded to fight malaria. For those who didn't know.)

so any news about name-calling belongs here. Here's how you started the name-calling sub-thread:

But, hey! "I'm OK. I don't have ebola. Screw everyone who does. Let them die where they are." That seems to be part of the sentiment we're hearing from some people on this subject. It's ugly.

I suppose I'm the ex-Freeper that poster is talking about. Banned from that website in 2006 for "anti-freeping." But what's eight years, more or less?

I guess I could panic them all with the news from my local paper today.

The missionaries came from my city; the woman who arrived today is from Charlotte.

Meanwhile, all the others with her have returned as well and are here in Charlotte. Not under quarantine. Kids and other "folks" lol (to reuse a phrase).

Should I run screaming from the state??? Omg, they may have been at the grocery store with me today! Touching my oranges!!! Aaaarrgghh!

Why were they allowed back in their own country???

here on DU

" DU's armchair epidemiologists say it's cool..."

The corollary is true also-- DU's armchair dystopian survivalists imply that Ebola will now spread rapidly throughout the country and it's too dangerous to treat an unhealthy patient in U.S. treatment centers designed in part, for this specific scenario.

Six of one, half a dozen of the other...

I'm not sure how being banned from that website in 2006 for "anti-freeping" has anything to do with this particular story. I do have some knowledge about epidemiology and how the CDC works, though. I'm not an expert, however, any more than those who are panicking over a couple of Ebola patients being transferred to the US for treatment and study are experts in the subject.

Bottom line is this: A large number of people have traveled to the US from West Africa on scheduled flights. One of them is currently in an isolation unit in NYC, awaiting a diagnosis. People traveling here, without being isolated as the two people who are being flown to Georgia are, a far greater risk to public health. That seems to me to be a more interesting thing to speculate about.

Are you concerned about that?

who uses GD as a pulpit to speak down to and educate DU from a position of omni-expertise. Why would you think that describes you?

Why on Earth would they be brought here to the US?

because they are American citizens?

That occurred to me as the reason. Besides, they're US citizens. That seems to me to be an adequate explanation.

I suppose it may sound careless to anyone who has little grasp of the CDC's infectious disease protocols.

"Why on Earth would they be brought here to the US?"
Most efficient and effective facilities and methods of treatment.

Researchers may think they have a possible serum/vaccine.
They have to do it here, perhaps if someone dies they can be very through.
Its said the 2 patients that have been given it have gone from worse to better.
Read about this disease and you see thats not how things go.
It will be safely contained, remember we have biological WMDs and they are contained.
This may be very beneficial if they can lower the 60 (mostly 90%) death rate.
A way to contain ebola may be used to treat other hemorrhagic fevers.

The regular flu kills tens of thousands every year like clockwork, yet this kills less than one thousand and it's doomsday, yawn.

What's the problem, Doctor?