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The bear doesn't try to eat it or kill it. Then the crow stares at the bear, like "WTF, I can't believe this!"
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/01/1318292/-Bear-saves-drowning-crow
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)That's a well-fed bear.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)malaise
(269,054 posts)CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)Last edited Fri Aug 1, 2014, 11:32 AM - Edit history (1)
People who think bears are capable of acts of kindness towards other species get killed and eaten. Ever heard of Timothy Treadwell and his girlfriend?
Bears are dangerous animals that will kill you and eat you if you are stupid enough not to recognize this fact.
FourScore
(9,704 posts)hunter
(38,317 posts)The ravens act as "eyes in the sky" and lead larger predators to food they can't kill themselves, and alert them to the presence of dangerous humans.
I've no doubt the bear was rescuing the crow and not worrying about the utility of the action. In the bear's mind it simply seemed like the right thing to do.
That doesn't mean anyone should trust a bear, or even another human.
But I suspect it's only humans who ever think, "Okay, if I rescue you, what's in it for me?"
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)When hunting deer, I keep tabs on crows who often raise a ruckus when deer pass through. If a crow flies around where I am posting up, that is a hint a deer is in the area.
When finished field dressing, the "clean up crew" disposes of Everything in the gut pile within 2 hrs. The crew is foxes, vultures, coyotes... and crows.
hunter
(38,317 posts)... they will avoid humans with guns who are out randomly shooting, and most especially individual humans known to shoot at them.
You see this with scrub jays and mocking birds. They'll leave harmless lazy cats alone, and harass cats known to be threats. They'll ignore most people, but remember people who have threatened them in some way.
And yet, the mockingbirds in the study were clearly able to recognize and remember a single individual, based on just two brief negative encounters at their nest. Levey said that sharply contrasts with laboratory studies, in which pigeons recognized people only after extensive training. Sixty seconds of exposure was all it took for mockingbirds to learn to identify different individuals and pick them out of all other students on campus, Levey said.
For most wild animals, urban development brings less habitat and more predators. Many species flee or die off, but a few persist, and some thrive. It seems obvious that these species do better around people, but why?
Few people bother mockingbird nests, so that is hardly an answer. Rather, Levey said, the birds ability to recognize people suggests perceptual powers that give them an edge in dealing with the complexities of urban environments such as being able to judge which cats may be aware of nests and which are simply passing blithely nearby.
http://news.ufl.edu/archive/2009/05/research-mockingbirds-no-bird-brains-can-recognize-a-face-in-a-crowd.html
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)45 yrs ago I was walking across that same campus and saw a large crowd following a campus cop. When I got closer I saw: An alligator decided to walk from one pond to another, and was proceeding to do so. They don't seem to care if its sunny or crowded. I think he/she was a biology major.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)that pitches an absolute fit, divebombs the cat, and screeches at me for going out on the porch. She has a nest in a tree nearby. My cat is pretty lazy these days, but in the past, she wouldn't hesitate to snatch it out of the air. Now she just tolerates it. LOL.
They are highly intelligent birds.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)I saw that documentary on him, "Grizzly Man", and just kept thinking, "wow, this guy was seriously looney."
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)Which came close enough for me. Richard Thompson is an incredible improviser.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)He seemed like just another ex-surf'dewd' goofball wandering about - nothing really wrong with that, as I suppose many of us guys go through a phase like that on our way to manhood, but he didn't just flirt with disaster as a result - in his descent to mental illness, he lost his grip on reality itself. Almost as if he thought chanting "Wonder Twin powers, Activate!" could turn him into a grizzly bear. And I'm not exaggerating, based upon the documentary.
Peace.
FourScore
(9,704 posts)Then she very brutally lost her life, AFTER watching Treadwell get killed. Horrible.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)That seems to suit him fine.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Probably injured...hopefully he/she was attended to.
FourScore
(9,704 posts)NV Whino
(20,886 posts)Probably not too strong to start with. And his pals didn't sound too happy about the situation.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)He finally looked like a crow when upright...you're right, he's young...hopefully he's safe and learned his lesson!
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)them rip the wipers off of cars while screaming their heads off. We have them here. should be our state bird but isn't. They are sacred. THey brought fire to man.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)They have hooked beaks.
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)Though ravens are also in the crow family they are very much larger in size:
http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-the-difference-between-a-raven-and-a-crow.htm
The most noticeable difference between a crow and a raven is size; in most cases, the largest black birds in this genus are known as ravens. Common Ravens are noticeably larger than American Crows, for example. Ravens average 25 inches tall (64 cm) with a 4 foot (122 cm) wing span, about the size of a hawk, while crows are around 18 inches (46 cm) tall and their wings span 3 feet (91 cm), similar to a dove.
A raven's beak is also noticeably larger, and they're completely black whereas the common crow usually has other colored feathers.
Raven's can be nasty suckers, and they're bloody huge. My dog thinks they're big black flying chickens. Crows? Meh. Not big enough to warrant a snack.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)One of the better ones of that series.
dhill926
(16,346 posts)I read it as "saves a drowning cow." Now THAT would have been something...
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)However, I'd say the bear didn't eat the funny looking fish because the bear had plenty to eat. He's not worried about where his next meal is coming from.
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)Bear no likey biting funny looking fish.
FourScore
(9,704 posts)Bigmack
(8,020 posts)Did the SAME thing myself! But when I looked at the video, I thought.....that's WAY too little to be a cow....and then I had some more coffee....and saw it was a crow! Ms Bigmack
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Need more java ...
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)Weird
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)I can totally see a bear storing a side of beef for after the winter.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)and tell them what happened , they'll call him a liar.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)otohara
(24,135 posts)Crows as Clever as Great Apes, Study Says
James Owen in London
for National Geographic News
December 9, 2004
Anyone who has watched crows, jays, ravens and other members of the corvid family will know they're anything but "birdbrained."
For instance, jays will sit on ant nests, allowing the angry insects to douse them with formic acid, a natural pesticide which helps rid the birds of parasites. Urban-living carrion crows have learned to use road traffic for cracking tough nuts. They do this at traffic light crossings, waiting patiently with human pedestrians for a red light before retrieving their prize.
Yet corvids may be even cleverer than we think. A new study suggests their cognitive abilities are a match for primates such as chimpanzees and gorillas. Furthermore, crows may provide clues to understanding human intelligence.
Published tomorrow in the journal Science, the study is co-authored by Nathan Emery and Nicola Clayton, from the departments of animal behavior and experimental psychology at Cambridge University, England.
They say that, while having very different brain structures, both crows and primates use a combination of mental tools, including imagination and the anticipation of possible future events, to solve similar problems. They base their argument on existing studies.
Emery and Clayton write, "These studies have found that some corvids are not only superior in intelligence to birds of other avian species (perhaps with the exception of some parrots), but also rival many nonhuman primates." http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/12/1209_041209_crows_apes.html
I saved one last year and he and his buds came back to thank me when an owl was eye-balling my kitty - they will squawk at their nemesis until it flees. It was something
panader0
(25,816 posts)If I don't have seed out, they will follow me and complain loudly until I behave. They will even eat out of the seed cup if I hold it near.
Cool birds. Outside my living room window, the birds, hummers, rabbits, Mexican ground squirrels, tarantulas, deer and more all eat and drink together without fearing each other. The biggest squabbles are between male quails.
FourScore
(9,704 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)capital art.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)It's a Hooded Crow.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)He wasn't trying to save it.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)one afternoon there was a bunch of crows making a racket in the backyard (I lived in an apt.). I looked out and saw all the crows in a tree and then, descending the fire escape of the opposite apartment building, a cat with a bird in its mouth. It was surreal