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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 11:59 AM Aug 2014

Politico Article: Newly Revealed Recording: Bill Clinton refused to kill Civilians to get Bin Laden

Bizarre...Why Now would this recording be leaked now on Sky News? It's not new news about Clinton not wanting to hit civilians to get Bin Laden. Surely this isn't by accident...but, who would benefit from revisiting this news and why?.

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http://www.politico.com/story/2014/07/bill-clinton-osama-bin-laden-september-11-109602.html?ml=tb

The day before the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, former President Bill Clinton purportedly spoke frankly about having passed on a chance to kill Osama bin Laden, according to a recording offered up by a former Australian lawmaker.

Michael Kroger, introduced as the former Victorian Liberal Party president, presented the http://www.skynews.com.au/video/program_pml/2014/07/30/bill-clinton-s-moment.htmltape on Australia’s “Sky News” channel. He said Clinton was speaking in Australia to about 30 business leaders during a lunch and was aware that his remarks were being recorded.

“And I’m just saying, you know, if I were Osama bin Laden — he’s very smart guy, I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about him — and I nearly got him once,” the former president reportedly says on the tape, to laughs. “I nearly got him. And I could have killed him, but I would have to destroy a little town called Kandahar in Afghanistan and kill 300 innocent women and children, and then I would have been no better than him. And so I didn’t do it.”

A representative for Clinton did not immediately respond to a request for comment Thursday on the tape.

The 9/11 Commission Report found that the Clinton administration had opted out of launching strikes against the Al Qaeda chief in the late 1990s at times because of concern about civilian deaths.

Bin Laden was killed in May 2011 during a U.S. raid on his hideout in Abbottabad, Pakistan.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/07/bill-clinton-osama-bin-laden-september-11-109602.html?ml=tb

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Politico Article: Newly Revealed Recording: Bill Clinton refused to kill Civilians to get Bin Laden (Original Post) KoKo Aug 2014 OP
I don't see the big deal here so he didn't want to go after Bin Laden bigdarryl Aug 2014 #1
I wondered that myself...Why would Politico post it now? Someone benefits.. KoKo Aug 2014 #7
The media would not have tolerated such a deadly strike on BinLaden BEFORE 9-11 blm Aug 2014 #9
What BS, Slick Willy. bigwillq Aug 2014 #2
Good for him. When fighting monsters... JaneyVee Aug 2014 #3
I had not heard the recording, but I had heard or read years ago that Clinton had merrily Aug 2014 #4
You don't see how this applies to the current I/P? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #5
Maybe that's it. Pointing out a contrast... KoKo Aug 2014 #10
This goes to his credit treestar Aug 2014 #6
It is a good thing bush got Osama RobertEarl Aug 2014 #8
 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
1. I don't see the big deal here so he didn't want to go after Bin Laden
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 12:04 PM
Aug 2014

Because there were children he would have killed in the process.Why is the media trying to make this a negative story

blm

(113,063 posts)
9. The media would not have tolerated such a deadly strike on BinLaden BEFORE 9-11
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 12:54 PM
Aug 2014

that included such heavy civilian casualties, and that includes the US press and world press.
In fact, the GOP and their media machine would have claimed Clinton committed war crimes to distract from impeachment.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
4. I had not heard the recording, but I had heard or read years ago that Clinton had
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 12:09 PM
Aug 2014

had Osama in his sights (well, not Clinton himself, but whoever does that kind of thing), but Clinton refused to give the go ahead. However, what I had heard or read at the time is that Clinton refused because of two or three civilians standing near Osama, not an entire town. The recording is less bad for Clinton than what I had originally heard.

Maybe the benefit is that Hillary seems to be heading toward announcing for President; and attacking her husband is the next best thing to attacking her.

That is another reason I hope she is not the nominee. I don't want to re-hash Bubba's two terms as well as her life and her years in the Senate and her years as Secretary of State--and her actions during his two terms.

I had all those arguments about life before Bush with Republicans between 2003, when I first started posting on message boards, and 2007, when I could no longer stomach posting with RWers.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
5. You don't see how this applies to the current I/P?
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 12:10 PM
Aug 2014

The US held off on trying to kill the man who set in motion the deaths of 3000 Americans, the destruction of billion dollar skyscrapers, and two wars that cost us thousands more dead and trillions of dollars of damage to our economy, because it could have resulted in the deaths of several hundred civilians.

Israel is working on killing thousands of Gazans and destroying Gaza's capability to provide water, electricity, and healthcare to its entire population in order to try to stop rocket fire that has killed something like 3 dozen civilians in the thirteen years.


I think the point of the article is to refute the notion that the US *under Democratic control* would react as violently and with as much disregard for civilian deaths as Israel is doing.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
10. Maybe that's it. Pointing out a contrast...
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:39 PM
Aug 2014

But, still don't see how this old news is put out as news news (except for the released recording) by Politico who isn't favorable to Dems, generally.

Calling attention to Clinton not getting Bin Laden because he wasn't aggressive enough could also be trying to show signs of Democratic weakness to justify what Israel is doing to Gaza as a criticism to Democrats/Obama that they are trying to broker a cease fire when in fact (in some crazies minds) we should not intervene and support Israel's slaughter of innocents in Gaza.

I don't know...the article is curious... and I wondered whose PR machine was behind it.

Thanks for your view.. and your points may be the truth of it.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
6. This goes to his credit
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 12:11 PM
Aug 2014

And no drone opponent had better complain. This is exactly what he should have done according to them.

And maybe it resulted in 911, which I'm sure the right wing is saying, but there's no way to be absolutely sure of that. It could have been planned by others even had bin Laden been already dead.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
8. It is a good thing bush got Osama
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 12:20 PM
Aug 2014

Oh wait, he didn't.
I guess bush didn't want innocents to die?
Oh wait, yes he did.

Damn. Can the CIA clear this up for us? Maybe a special 9/11 commission? Oh, wait....

Ok, I got it.... the free press in this country will put it all together and we'll know the truth???? Oh, wait. Damn.

If I didn't know better, it would like some huge conspiracy......

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