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(85,998 posts)
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 12:06 PM Aug 2014

Obama Admin Readies Response to Upcoming Torture Report - Says 'Americans Can Take Pride' in End

from MintPress News:

A State Department document obtained by the Associated Press reveals part of the Obama administration’s attempt to ready its public relations response to an upcoming Senate report on the CIA’s torture program.

Due to be declassified in the coming days, the report is said to criticize the agency for its post-9/11 illegal torture of detainees in secret prisons. The document details some of the administration’s prepared talking points to be used once a White House-approved version of the report is released.

Reportedly sent by accident via email to the AP, the State Department memo describes the report as a demonstration of American democracy, rather than as an indictment of the CIA’s torture practices. The document states that “no American is proud” of the CIA’s tactics, but that “the story” of illegal, indefinite torture and imprisonment is part of a larger message, one in which “America’s democratic system worked just as it was designed to work in bringing an end to actions inconsistent with our democratic values.” That story, the document proclaims, is one in which Americans can take pride.

. . . The Senate report is also said to confirm what the public has long known about the RDI program — that in addition to torturing detainees, the agency lied to Congress about the program’s efficacy, claiming it was essential to gather information about al-Qaeda. The document states that the report “leaves no doubt that the methods used to extract information from some terrorist suspects caused profound pain, suffering and humiliation. It also leaves no doubt that the harm caused by the use of these techniques outweighed any potential benefit.”

The document also writes up questions from the press and members of Congress that are likely to be asked after the report is released:

“Isn’t it clear that the CIA engaged in torture as defined in the Torture Convention?””Doesn’t the report make clear that at least some who authorized or participated in the RDI program committed crimes?”

“Now that the report is released is the White House prepared to concede that people were tortured — or will these be like the non-coup in Egypt where you won’t admit the obvious?”

“Will the Justice Department revisit its decision not to prosecute anyone?”

“What are you still trying to hide?”



read more: http://www.mintpressnews.com/state-dept-torture-talking-points-reveal-white-house-pr-machine-ahead-of-senate-report/194799/

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Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
1. I'm confused, we're supposed to be proud about what?
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 12:19 PM
Aug 2014

Are they arresting everyone who committed these crimes, or ordered them committed?

Unless that's the case, I see very little of which to even potentially be 'proud'.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
3. I'm wondering when this administration is going to be open and honest about their own practices
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 12:35 PM
Aug 2014

. . . in both renditions and approving or looking the other way in tortures overseas in our behalf.

Of course, they won't, but I'm still hoping we can force them to.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
6. Which is exactly the reason they aren't pursuing the criminals. Too many (D)'s were collaborators.
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 12:39 PM
Aug 2014

And are pursuing many of the same policies as BushCo did.

Every thing secret degenerates, even the administration of justice; nothing is safe that does not show how it can bear discussion and publicity. Lord Acton

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
5. And now we have that f'n ebola thing happening...
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 12:38 PM
Aug 2014

what timing! Wink.wink.

Joe six-pack won't give 2 shits about CIA rendition.

 

conservaphobe

(1,284 posts)
7. Which is why indicting those responsible would be as ridiculous as the GOP suing Obama.
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 12:43 PM
Aug 2014

The American public does not like those kinds of games in politics.

I don't take anyone seriously who thinks we should make people with which we disagree political prisoners.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
8. thing is
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:20 PM
Aug 2014

. . .those practices were actually illegal when they were used and the interrogators knew that.

It's curious that you think prosecuting them would be 'game playing' and not the Yoo memos which gave them cover.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
10. The rule of law isn't a game and torture isn't a " political disagreement"
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:32 PM
Aug 2014

Your logic stinks as far as I can tell. What is the purpose then of codification of law? What is the purpose of the law if it is not applied to the powerful and the powerless alike?

What the fuck is the purpose of signing treaties and conventions that do not apply to the only people in a position on to violate them?

How dare we execute and call for the execution of others for crimes that when we commit the very same crimes it is labeled a "political disagreement"?

There is no political disagreement, torture is a crime against humanity and it doesn't matter an iota if you don't believe prosecution will be popular.

deminks

(11,014 posts)
9. THE SYSTEM WORKED?????
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:28 PM
Aug 2014

When was the effing system invoked???????

When Buchco, et al, is behind bars with the key thrown away, then I will be proud. Until then, crime pays, and pays well. We are a banana republic.

Don't tell me it's raining when you are standing there micturating on my head.

Solly Mack

(90,773 posts)
11. Pride? I'm supposed to be proud?
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 02:20 PM
Aug 2014

Takes a warped person to spin it that way. Sick fucks think that way.

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