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Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:31 PM Aug 2014

50 civilians killed today, 2 Israeli fighting men, America mourns the soldiers, ignores the children

The freaky propaganda charade in the American media should make any decent human being hurl
at the pure evil this purposeful ignorance represents.

That is all, time to take it all out on the lawn. Where did I leave my Bushwhacker?

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50 civilians killed today, 2 Israeli fighting men, America mourns the soldiers, ignores the children (Original Post) Fred Sanders Aug 2014 OP
It's disgusting malaise Aug 2014 #1
Hamas must be stopped yeoman6987 Aug 2014 #32
Words fail... onecaliberal Aug 2014 #2
Repeat of Iraq news RobertEarl Aug 2014 #3
Farrow is actually quoting from the Roger Cohen NYT piece malaise Aug 2014 #4
No, America just understands who is at fault. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #5
So a death sentence is meted out on the principle of hifiguy Aug 2014 #6
it's the "she made me do it to her" defense, it's all they have left to justify their crimes nt msongs Aug 2014 #7
Amen to that. hifiguy Aug 2014 #10
They love to blame the victim 4now Aug 2014 #18
yep frylock Aug 2014 #23
I call it the wife-beater defense. n/t Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #25
Yep. Victimization syndrome, an entire nation is officially sick. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #41
So just nuke 'em jberryhill Aug 2014 #8
Isn't it amazing how those little kids built those tunnels? PADemD Aug 2014 #31
As amazing as 1500 dead brown civilians are equal to to 2 dead white civilians.... Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #42
EXACTLY!! Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #11
that sign is PERFECT! m-lekktor Aug 2014 #13
Somehow I don't think any of those things happened to that guy oberliner Aug 2014 #16
just as those 4 boys on the beach had no culpability for the Holocaust frylock Aug 2014 #24
But they do happen to Palestinians all the time. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #26
Not the ones orchestrating the shooting of rockets oberliner Aug 2014 #39
it's a really bad photoshop job n/t hibbing Aug 2014 #35
That cuts directly to the crux of the matter now, hifiguy Aug 2014 #17
Great sign. nt redqueen Aug 2014 #22
Ridiculous Cali_Democrat Aug 2014 #12
Just stop, this kind of nonsense just doesn't work anymore, don't you get that? sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #15
So, you blame the victims Bettie Aug 2014 #20
so you're an advocate of collective punishment.. frylock Aug 2014 #21
I got mugged by an Italian once jberryhill Aug 2014 #27
I don't understand... TeeYiYi Aug 2014 #9
why the United States military aren't stepping in to put a stop to this carnage. yeoman6987 Aug 2014 #33
How about... TeeYiYi Aug 2014 #40
Who the fuck is mourning the Israeli soldiers? LordGlenconner Aug 2014 #14
Trained warriors killed in a war......it is what they do, kill and be killed. The mourning should be Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #43
the propaganda machine wants us to believe that but the world has had enough of the carnage xiamiam Aug 2014 #19
Hell, America just OK'd more arms to the murderers. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #28
The U.S. is supplying Hamas! whistler162 Aug 2014 #37
No. The US is supplying the murderers in Israel. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #38
It is deeply disturbing..... Swede Atlanta Aug 2014 #29
You do know that Israel did not build those camps. ieoeja Aug 2014 #36
TURN. IT. OFF. DeSwiss Aug 2014 #30
the children of gaza hang tough! jonjensen Aug 2014 #34
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
32. Hamas must be stopped
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 04:21 PM
Aug 2014

Unbelievable how they started firing during a cease fire. I wonder if they thought Israel was just going to sit back and take it? HA! I guess next time when their is a cease fire, maybe Hamas will take it seriously.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
4. Farrow is actually quoting from the Roger Cohen NYT piece
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:36 PM
Aug 2014

He's speaking about columnists speaking out against this Israeli slaughter of children.

Ezra Klein is also condemning the Israeli approach...immorally indefensive Klein calls the settlements.

 

Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)
5. No, America just understands who is at fault.
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:42 PM
Aug 2014

So does...

Ban ki moon knows it.
SOS Kerry knows it.
White House knows it.

Those children of the Palestinians are led by the lying,murdering Hamas.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
6. So a death sentence is meted out on the principle of
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 01:55 PM
Aug 2014

guilt by association. Defending that is beyond disgusting.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
42. As amazing as 1500 dead brown civilians are equal to to 2 dead white civilians....
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 12:20 PM
Aug 2014

The propaganda is amazing, but you already knew that.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
26. But they do happen to Palestinians all the time.
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 03:26 PM
Aug 2014

Yeah, that guy probably didn't shoot a rocket, either.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
39. Not the ones orchestrating the shooting of rockets
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 04:47 PM
Aug 2014

Most of the Hamas leadership doing that live quite well.

Some are even calling the shots from Qatar.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
15. Just stop, this kind of nonsense just doesn't work anymore, don't you get that?
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 02:14 PM
Aug 2014

Incredible that you would accuse little children of 'being led by' ANYONE. Do you understand the meaning of the word 'children, innocent'??

The world is outraged and no amount of excuses is going to change that. The world is getting a close up look at THIS country's murderous foreign policies, and its shameful, though not surprising considering our own war criminals are walking around, support for Israel, as the children die and feeble attempts are made to try to turn the world's eyes away from that.

I've been reading the comments on world media articles about this, and it is encouraging to see the responses to the same old 'it's the children's fault, it's Hamas' fault'. Whoever kills the children is responsible, PERIOD.

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
20. So, you blame the victims
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 02:58 PM
Aug 2014

Yes, I'm sure that the children voted.

And, in the end, Hamas was created BY Israel.

You see, when you take everything from people, they are willing to follow whoever gives them even a tiny shred of hope.

Hamas was that glimmer of hope in an unending occupation. People who have nothing more to lose will risk everything.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
9. I don't understand...
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 02:01 PM
Aug 2014

...why this massacre of Palestinians is being allowed to continue; why the United States military or the citizens of Israel aren't stepping in to put a stop to this carnage.

As a child, I didn't understand why someone didn't step in to stop the Holocaust or the My Lai massacre.

I must be terribly naive.

TYY

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
33. why the United States military aren't stepping in to put a stop to this carnage.
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 04:25 PM
Aug 2014

I know for a fact that the American people do not want to have our military involved in this mess. I am surprised that a liberal would even bring it up.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
40. How about...
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 08:11 PM
Aug 2014

...if the United States stops bankrolling Israel. Do you think the American people might approve of that suggestion?

TYY

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
43. Trained warriors killed in a war......it is what they do, kill and be killed. The mourning should be
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 12:24 PM
Aug 2014

that human killing machines even exist.

xiamiam

(4,906 posts)
19. the propaganda machine wants us to believe that but the world has had enough of the carnage
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 02:51 PM
Aug 2014

we can choose to support blowing hospitals and schools and children to pieces and live without empathy and in the hatred they exhibit..or we can choose to recognize psychopathy and its degradation of humanity

I will never submit to anyone who supports this horror. Israel drew the line in the sand this time. There is nothing that Netanyahu or his rabid government can ever say or do that will influence me to believe this is just. He should be in jail.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
29. It is deeply disturbing.....
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 03:50 PM
Aug 2014

I have always fully supported Israel, their right to a homeland for Jews and their right to defend themselves.

But in recent years as the controversies of expanded settlements, effective incarceration of Palestinians either in the West Bank or Gaza, destruction of economic opportunity, etc. has become apparent my views have begun to change.

The most current war between Hamas and Israel has completed the circle. Regardless of what started this dispute, there is no justification for the wholesale slaughter/genocide of innocent Palestinians. If the Israelis are out to destroy the tunnels then why aren't they doing that? Why are they bombing houses and schools and hospitals?

They are doing it either because Bibi believes in a Palestinian Holocaust (my suspicion) or because Bibi believes if he kills enough people he can convince the Palestinians to abandon support of Hamas.

His actions will have the opposite effect. The more killing you do the more suicide bombers you spawn and the more hatred for Jews and Israel.

So for me now I am for terminating all U.S. aid for Israel in any form. Let the Israelis pay for their own weapons and security without sugar daddy/bitch America footing the bill. Further I am for a U.N. plan to dismantle Israel and give the land back to the Palestinians. I'm sure the Jews won't mind living in camps for 30 or 40 years like they did to the Palestinians after the U.N. gave them Israel as a consolation prize for the holocaust.

I have cancelled a planned trip to Fascist land for next year. I am checking my portfolio for any Israelis companies and am reviewing the products/services I purchase to eliminate anything with Israel in the name.

They are dead to me now.

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
36. You do know that Israel did not build those camps.
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 04:40 PM
Aug 2014

Jordan and Egypt built those camps. Jordan and Egypt forced them into those camps. All Israel did was close their borders.


 

jonjensen

(168 posts)
34. the children of gaza hang tough!
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 04:25 PM
Aug 2014

The children of gaza like the children coming across our border will win in the end that always do!

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