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nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 03:06 PM Aug 2014

WikiLeaks Cables Reveal U.S. Gov't Planned To “Retaliate and Cause Pain” On Countries Refusing GMOs

Arjun Walia July 31, 2014



Studies that link Genetically Modified (GM) food to multiple human health ailments are not the only thing that has millions of people questioning the production of GM food. The fact that previously classified secret government documents show how the Bush administration developed ways to retaliate against countries that were refusing to use GM seeds is another.

If documents regarding our food are required to be concealed from the public domain, something is not right, and it’s great to have an organization like WikiLeaks shed some light into the world that’s been hidden from us for so many years.

Targeting Certain Countries

The cables reveal that the State Department was lobbying all over the world for Monsanto, and other major biotech corporations. They reveal that American diplomats requested funding to send lobbyists for the biotech industry to meet with politicians and agricultural officials in “target countries.” These included countries in Africa, Latin America and some European countries.

A non-profit consumer protection group called Food & Water Watch published a report showing the details of the partnership between the federal government and a number of biotech companies who have pushed their GMO products on multiple countries for a number of years.

The United States has aggressively pursued foreign policies in food and agriculture that benefit the largest seed companies. The U.S. State department has launched a concerted strategy to promote agricultural biotechnology, often over the opposition of the public and government, to the near exclusion of other more sustainable, more appropriate agricultural policy alternatives. The U.S. State department has also lobbied foreign governments to adopt pro-agricultural biotechnology politics and laws, operated a rigorous public resoulations campaign to improve the image of biotechnology and challenged common sense biotechnology safeguards and rules – even including opposing laws requiring the labeling of genetically engineered (GE) foods. (source)


HERE is one cable (out of many) from Morocco.

Full Article: http://www.naturalblaze.com/2014/07/wikileaks-cables-reveal-us-govt-planned.html

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WikiLeaks Cables Reveal U.S. Gov't Planned To “Retaliate and Cause Pain” On Countries Refusing GMOs (Original Post) nationalize the fed Aug 2014 OP
Sad. NT Trillo Aug 2014 #1
Take Our Government Back billhicks76 Aug 2014 #19
Never thought I'd see the day the U.S. take a strong pro-science stance. conservaphobe Aug 2014 #2
Now that is more than slightly misguided... ljm2002 Aug 2014 #3
+ a million nationalize the fed Aug 2014 #4
Yeah some around here like distracting from the core issue with silly stuff like that. Rex Aug 2014 #24
you cannot be serious!!! Duppers Aug 2014 #21
You know what would be some useful GM? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #27
+100 Duppers Aug 2014 #30
Fucking A BrotherIvan Aug 2014 #37
You are not a conservaphobe. You seem to love government acting as the strong-arm of big business. stillwaiting Aug 2014 #38
Well, it clarifies who's really in charge of our government. Hint: it ain't the people. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #5
You beat me to it. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2014 #6
+1. I call it Corporate fascism. blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #9
But...but...it *IS* the people! KansDem Aug 2014 #11
The Onion did a great piece once about the American People hiring a congressional lobbyist joeybee12 Aug 2014 #13
Government and corporations are now one and the same. Rex Aug 2014 #25
The influx of hard line advocacy and mocking of any and all concerns a coincidence? I don't think so TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #7
I just do not understand why our government is pushing GMOs CanonRay Aug 2014 #8
Evilness, perhaps? blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #10
Money. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #14
If the government wants to push GM... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #28
The government shouldn't be pushing GM at all arikara Aug 2014 #34
I wish I could say this surprises me. City Lights Aug 2014 #12
GMO is not a scientific issue JackRiddler Aug 2014 #15
thanks for linking to that OP Duppers Aug 2014 #22
What fucking business is it of the government hifiguy Aug 2014 #16
A twisted business with the 1% the puppet master. TIMETOCHANGE Aug 2014 #20
We are ruled by liars and criminals. DeSwiss Aug 2014 #17
He said that? When he was running for President? KoKo Aug 2014 #31
One advantage of being old is that you can remember when Americans A Simple Game Aug 2014 #18
The World According to Monsanto PatSeg Aug 2014 #23
thanks for posting this..had never seen it and while i thought i already knew most of that xiamiam Aug 2014 #33
I needed a Monsanto refresher PatSeg Aug 2014 #35
Where is the quote in your headline from? I t is not part of the cable... It appears to be made up Ohio Joe Aug 2014 #26
Pure Grade-A Bullshit. Egnever Aug 2014 #32
Better do what Uncle wants or else you might be taught a good lesson by having a world of hurt indepat Aug 2014 #29
Something is not right. Octafish Aug 2014 #36
 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
19. Take Our Government Back
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 05:48 PM
Aug 2014

They are just a thuggish, criminal gang fronting for corporations. That's their main priority. Let's take it back...For And By The People. These corporatists should be on trial.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
3. Now that is more than slightly misguided...
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 03:37 PM
Aug 2014

...since the issue at hand is not science, but government bullying tactics on behalf of large multinational corporations.

Amazing the things that will cause certain people to clap and cheer these days.

nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)
4. + a million
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 03:46 PM
Aug 2014
Amazing the things that will cause certain people to clap and cheer these days.


Should be embarrassing. But there's no limit anymore.

"Do the Limbo- How Low can You Go"

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
24. Yeah some around here like distracting from the core issue with silly stuff like that.
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 06:55 PM
Aug 2014

One can only guess at to why.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
21. you cannot be serious!!!
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 06:15 PM
Aug 2014

Look, low-info person, most folks are not opposed to *all* GMO, but to the blind, undifferentiated acceptance of the GMOs that put pesticides into our food supply via modifying plants to accept pesticides.

See: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017202953


Down thread, blkmusclmachine calls this administration's position "Corporate fascism" and it is!

Please read more and take your blinders off.

(And, btw, in order to fend against any personal attack, you should know that I am not some neo-Luddite - there are 2 phd scientists in my immediate family.)



Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
27. You know what would be some useful GM?
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 08:08 PM
Aug 2014

Something to bulk up the roots of plants with above-ground fruits, grains and vegetables with water storing nodules to enable them to withstand droughts and dry spells better.

What's not useful GM? GM that enables farmers to essentially sterilize enormous tracts of land except for their herbicide-resistant GM crops.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
37. Fucking A
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 01:08 AM
Aug 2014

Or how about creating machinery that can harvest crops that are not monocrops which leads to widespread disease and insect attack?

How about water-efficient planting that produces the most food without poisoning the medium or the water?

How about not making super-weeds and super-bugs?

How about worrying about human and animal health before mega corporation profits?

That is science I support. Anyone who acts like those who resist GMOs are Luddites are outright lying.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
38. You are not a conservaphobe. You seem to love government acting as the strong-arm of big business.
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 07:48 AM
Aug 2014

That is VERY conservative. There might be another name for it too....

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
6. You beat me to it.
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 04:24 PM
Aug 2014

But it goes further than that...
it means our government is against us having a healthy world, healthy food.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
13. The Onion did a great piece once about the American People hiring a congressional lobbyist
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 05:21 PM
Aug 2014

to lobby on behalf of its citizens...in other words, we don't have a voice, they don't work for us.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
25. Government and corporations are now one and the same.
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 07:05 PM
Aug 2014

Really have been in the process since Ike warned us about the MIC. People are now just human capital.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
7. The influx of hard line advocacy and mocking of any and all concerns a coincidence? I don't think so
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 04:41 PM
Aug 2014

Next will we find that the great scientific consensus is more of a carefully framed, highly controlled, exclusionary, and limited by controlling industry political stunt? Maybe.

The tactics of advocates are not encouraging and the outright arrogance and disdain many display is surely off putting.

I smell another in a long, long series of hand wringing and "who could have ever guessed" already in the pipeline.

Maybe it is all fine but bullying rather than education doesn't support that. Most likely some methods and combinations are fine and other less so while still others are an actual improvement and ever modification should be evaluated individually and tested freely which means the health of the people and the food supply takes precedence over patent security and when completed and found safe then the consumer still has the right to know, it is their money and their body.

CanonRay

(14,104 posts)
8. I just do not understand why our government is pushing GMOs
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 04:58 PM
Aug 2014

I mean other than the obvious, that Monsanto bought the whole government lock, stock, and barrel. But they are one company. There are lots of interests competing with Monsanto/GMO. Why does the gov't want to push this? This makes no sense to me.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
28. If the government wants to push GM...
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 08:10 PM
Aug 2014

It should be expanding funding to public university biosciences, not welding itself to corporate concerns.

arikara

(5,562 posts)
34. The government shouldn't be pushing GM at all
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 12:16 AM
Aug 2014

and they should be funding universities to test these things properly and honestly. Which neither corporation or government does at this time. And the universities go to the highest bidder... well I guess the politicians do too.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
15. GMO is not a scientific issue
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 05:26 PM
Aug 2014

GMO and more broadly the system of food production and delivery of which it is a part are a matter of power, money, politics and control: economics.

Parallel thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025321673

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
16. What fucking business is it of the government
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 05:27 PM
Aug 2014

to force products on other nations, particularly questionable ones?

 

TIMETOCHANGE

(86 posts)
20. A twisted business with the 1% the puppet master.
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 06:09 PM
Aug 2014

The 1% needs to sell their seeds. They call their whores in government to make it happen. Commerce at the end of a gun barrel.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
31. He said that? When he was running for President?
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 10:16 PM
Aug 2014

I thought I'd heard it all...but missed that one. OMG...

Thanks for the info. I know he was going to "revisit NAFT" and "Transparency in Government" and so many other things. I didn't catch the one about the GMO's.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
18. One advantage of being old is that you can remember when Americans
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 05:32 PM
Aug 2014

had ideas and products that were good enough to sell themselves, no arm twisting or threats required.

xiamiam

(4,906 posts)
33. thanks for posting this..had never seen it and while i thought i already knew most of that
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 12:15 AM
Aug 2014

it was a good reminder of how disgusting monsanto really is

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
35. I needed a Monsanto refresher
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 12:23 AM
Aug 2014

after encountering some pro-GMO people on another thread. Basically if you're anti-GMOs, you're anti science---very aggressive and rude. Not exactly what I was expecting at DU.

Ohio Joe

(21,756 posts)
26. Where is the quote in your headline from? I t is not part of the cable... It appears to be made up
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 07:11 PM
Aug 2014

What does the cable say the US should do? Lets take a look...

"¶6. Action requested: While Country Team is not inclined to directly rebut the film thereby giving it credence, we believe there is a role for public diplomacy, mainly focusing on the rigor of the U.S. regulatory system and the positive role ag biotech can play in meeting world food needs, particularly in the developing world. At the same time, it would be useful for Emboffs to have talking points."

Wow... Such retaliation...

It really bothers me when not only is science ignored but then out right lies are spread to try and back them up. None of this has anything to do with forcing anyone to use GMO's, it has to do with backing up the US regulatory system.

Pure Grade-A Bullshit.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
29. Better do what Uncle wants or else you might be taught a good lesson by having a world of hurt
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 09:56 PM
Aug 2014

heaped on you.

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