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Hekate

(90,714 posts)
6. Make sure it never happens again, as he said right there. It starts with admitting the truth.
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 03:56 PM
Aug 2014

Amends -- well the wheels of Justice turn slowly. How about disbarring John Yoo, just for a wee start.

Or, "The mills of the gods grind slowly, but they grind exceeding small."

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
4. If the part I saw was any indication, he hit the ball out of the park repeatedly
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 03:53 PM
Aug 2014

Questioned about his inability to get along with House Repubs or some such nonsense he framed it as Republicans unable to get along with each other, as evidenced by yesterday's epic fiasco.

He acknowledged that "we" (meaning the US, in our names) had committed torture. Not enhanced interrogation. Not any of the other euphemisms that Baby Caligula's regime came up with. Torture.

And that we have to admit that and make sure it never happens again.

President Obama said that the measure of us as a nation was not how we treated other people when things are going well, but how we treat them when things are going very badly. As in "After 9-11 people were very frightened." But no excuses.

I LIKE THIS MAN.

choie

(4,111 posts)
9. Are you kidding?
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 04:28 PM
Aug 2014

He WAS excusing them. He used the word torture ...and..so what? Where's the accountability??? They were afraid?? That is cya bullshit.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
10. Did you watch the press conference? I suggest you do so. There was no cya there at all.
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 05:07 PM
Aug 2014

An admission like that is pretty amazing coming from a sitting president. I'm curious what some of DUs lawyers have to say about it -- and I mean the real ones, not the ones who just play lawyer/doctor/whatever online.

No kidding.

noise

(2,392 posts)
11. The CYA
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 05:10 PM
Aug 2014

is the notion that torture was a good faith overreaction. Was Iraq a good faith diversion? Was Wall St. corruption good faith looting?

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
13. You need to watch the presser and not take my snippet as a full-context quote.
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 05:20 PM
Aug 2014

Obama categorically rejected any such thing as a good faith overreaction by his own framing of the issue of the previous administration's use of TORTURE in our names, as in "we tortured". There were no fucking excuses offered.

YvonneCa

(10,117 posts)
15. He did hit the ball out of the park...
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 06:55 PM
Aug 2014

...repeatedly, on every issue and question. I hope this is seen widely...

Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #5)

YvonneCa

(10,117 posts)
16. I hope you will watch the entire...
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 06:58 PM
Aug 2014

...press conference. He did give his reasons for not doing that. I agree with you that they probably should have been indicted. I would not have had as much compassion for them as our President has shown.

Edited to add link
http://www.c-span.org/video/?320821-1/president-obama-news-conference

Not sure it will work.

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