Oh, wait - they don't want any cease fire, they just want more war.

Never mind.

But it seems they don't want a cease fire either, so it will be more war, for a few days anyway. By the way, it seems the IDF was not really prepared for the tunnel war Hamas is waging, and they are having a tough slog maintaining their invasion. My guess is that a withdrawal and ceasefire is what will actually happen, after the appropriate declaration of mission accomplished of course.

Sometimes people want to make every conflict about David and Goliath...

But in these modern times, David is all too often the asshole.

you know that, I know that, we all know that. But yes indeed the pathetic gazan army does pose an enormous threat to Israel, any day now those tunnels could be Tel Aviv and *dozens* of lightly armed irregulars could engage one of the best trained best equipped armies in the world.

If you persist there's no point trying to talk to you.

Any other view is ridiculous.

And that was not the suggestion that I replied to. Sure, if a deal can be worked out there will be an exchange of prisoners, including of course the same ones Israel took hostage again during their raids against Hamas after the kidnapping that they blamed on Hamas when there was no evidence at all that Hamas was involved, knowing full well that this would result in another crisis.

Before they denounce them at the podium. Their must be little question.

That's what it is called when a soldier is taken prisoner during wartime by enemy forces. "Kidnapping" implies that the "victim," for want of a better word, was innocent, or a noncombatant, if you will.