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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe good faith torture defense
"We were under so much pressure."
"Hindsight is 20/20."
"Everything was carefully reviewed."
"We had to do it. There was no other way."
Former Sen. Bob Graham, D-Fla., who chaired the Joint Inquiry in 2002 and has been beating the drum for more disclosure about 9/11 since then, has never understood why the 28 pages were redacted. Graham told IBTimes that based on his involvement in the investigation and on the now-classified information in the document that his committee produced, he is convinced that the Saudi government without question was supporting the hijackers who lived in San Diego
. You can't have 19 people living in the United States for, in some cases, almost two years, taking flight lessons and other preparations, without someone paying for it. But I think it goes much broader than that. The agencies from CIA and FBI have suppressed that information so American people don't have the facts."
Jones insists that releasing the 28 secret pages would not violate national security.
It does not deal with national security per se; it is more about relationships, he said. The information is critical to our foreign policy moving forward and should thus be available to the American people. If the 9/11 hijackers had outside help particularly from one or more foreign governments the press and the public have a right to know what our government has or has not done to bring justice to the perpetrators."
9/11 Link to Saudi Arabia
Jones insists that releasing the 28 secret pages would not violate national security.
It does not deal with national security per se; it is more about relationships, he said. The information is critical to our foreign policy moving forward and should thus be available to the American people. If the 9/11 hijackers had outside help particularly from one or more foreign governments the press and the public have a right to know what our government has or has not done to bring justice to the perpetrators."
9/11 Link to Saudi Arabia
How on earth does it make sense to justify torture while completing covering up a support network for the hijackers? In this context the torture program looks more like a "tough on terror" PR campaign. The notion that it was implemented in good faith is bullshit.
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The good faith torture defense (Original Post)
noise
Aug 2014
OP
That they tried to cover up tells you they KNEW it was wrong/illegal/immoral. They just don't care.
blkmusclmachine
Aug 2014
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blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)1. That they tried to cover up tells you they KNEW it was wrong/illegal/immoral. They just don't care.
Sociopath: a person with a psychopathic personality whose behavior is antisocial, often criminal, and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.
noise
(2,392 posts)2. Where is the patriotism?
President Obama refuses to declassify 28 pages of the JI report which detail a foreign support network for 9/11 hijackers. Why is he credible when he defends a torture program?
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)3. I'm not even sure what the security argument could be.
What are we going to do expose practices and methods that are banned?
If you aren't doing it then what the fuck is it to hide?
The only point is to lie to the American people because dirt was done and nobody wants to get clean.