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Bill Maher reminded everyone Thursday evening that no matter how progressive he claims to be, when it comes to women, hes an old school misogynist. Despite a long history of being called out by both liberals and conservatives for his tendency to use sexist slurs, Maher still thought it appropriate to tweet this:
Dealing w/ Hamas is like dealing w/ a crazy woman who's trying to kill u - u can only hold her wrists so long before you have to slap her
So much sexism packed into one tweet! As others have already pointed out, Maher is making light of the serious problem of domestic violence. But hes also trading on the tired stereotype of women as irrational children who need to be brought in line by more stable men. (See: Clark Gable or Cary Grant putting a hysterical woman in her place with a calmly delivered slap that swiftly reminds her of the proper order of things.)
Theres also the matter of the whos trying to kill u part of the tweet, a nice bit of ass-covering that turns domestic violence into self-defense. (Bill: If a woman is ever actually trying to kill you, slapping her probably isn't enough.) Maher may admire men of yore who slapped screaming women with aplomb, but he fails to have their courage of conviction. Also, his Israeli-Palestinian conflict commentary is dumb.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/07/18/bill_maher_s_sexist_tweet_the_so_called_progressive_makes_light_of_domestic.html?wpisrc=obnetwork
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)No, he's not.
He is attacking the justification for the intensity and disproportionality of the Gaza operation.
That line is not "making light" of anything, but is portraying Israeli justifications as the "she made me do it" mentality of spouse abusers.
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)interpretation.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)There are, for example, what strike some people as "racist jokes" wherein, in point of fact, the joke turns on the stupidity of racism.
The Israelis and Palestinians are locked into a relationship from which they cannot escape, there is a mountain of fear and resentment on both sides, but one of the two has a decided advantage in the use of force to resolve disputes.
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)I'm not a big fan of his, but his take was accurate...and depressing.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Not attacking their justifcations, but endorsing them.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Yeah, I guess if you considered a man slapping his wife for trying to escape physical confinement to be "justified", then I suppose one might see it that way.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)I see it 180 from you. And yes, Bill maher has a history of being a sexist asshat, so he probably thinks that would be justified.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)So you are saying that comparing Israel to a wife beater is "pro Israel"?
Either that or you actually buy into.the "she drove me to it" justification.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)he's calling them crazy and Israel needs to do what it's doing.
No, I don't buy into it...Maher does...
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)So let me get this straight.
If some guy tells you his wife is crazy and he has to beat her to keep her from struggling, you think, "Hmmm, poor guy, she really must be crazy."
Just wow. Maher compares Israel to a wife beater, and that makes Israel the good guy in that comparison. Okay.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)He's not comparing Israel to a wife beater, he's comparing Hamas to a crazed murderer.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Chan790
(20,176 posts)and has been his entire career, I suspect that Joey has the right of it. He's not equating Israel to a wife-beater...he's being serious.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)I disagree with the joke, but what he is saying is that he's being attacked, and is holding the wrists for self-defense.
And if it's about domestic violence, the woman is the perpetrator.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)It's intended to be a crazy, unreasonable person trying to kill you. "Restraint" works some of the time, but not all of the time.
That's why it offends me. It makes Hamas (and Palestinians, by association) into irrational actors who only want to kill for no reason.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)...are you behaving as an enemy?
alp227
(32,032 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)But, here, unsullied by any organization, is Bill Maher basically saying it's the Palestinians' fault that their kids are being slaughtered:
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)JI7
(89,252 posts)i can't remember what it was.
Warpy
(111,274 posts)will take advantage of that shift in your attention to jam her knee where you live.
Then she'll finish the job. Unfortunately, the Arabs aren't equipped to do so, having been under a blockade for the past 7 years, only partially relieved by tunnels supplying their black markets with forbidden foods and consumer items.
Maher has a lot of big blind spots. At least he hasn't mentioned his antivax horseshit in a long time, I think he must have gotten his ears pinned way back for that one.
But yes, adolescent male culture of the early 60s took over when he got his first pubic hair and he's never progressed emotionally beyond it.
pbmus
(12,422 posts)to get a laugh ... from someone, unfortunately, not you ....
Garthem
(128 posts)Thing is, he's a funny ass most of the time. Not on this one, but most of the time.
maced666
(771 posts)He'll be hoisted and paraded around as a star progressive once again. Meanwhile he keeps a misogynistic bullet in the chamber that could go off any minute.
With him, the good half is not worth shouldering the burden of his bad side.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)cutting down people for being the way they were born -- female, black, gay, Palestinian, mentally challenged, etc. -- and criticizing people for things they choose to believe -- supernatural/religious/magical thinking, Republican thinking, conservative thinking, racist thinking, etc.
H2O Man
(73,559 posts)he goes to the edge of very bad taste, like it's almost kind of sort of like his job.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)a time or two. He can be an ass about lots of things, women is only one of them.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)That is, a functional clock is broken twice a day.
stranger81
(2,345 posts)Sexism and racism all rolled into one nice little pile of drek.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)We like our favorites in spite of their faults
JEFF9K
(1,935 posts)The woman in question was not only CRAZY but was TRYING TO KILL HIM!!
Some people are so anxious to accuse others of "sexism" that their reading comprehension goes down to near zero.
Stop harming the Democratic Party with this nonsense!
arcane1
(38,613 posts)I love Bill, but he blew it on this one