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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWTF? We are giving $8 billion to Ukraine for border security....
...and can't come up with $3 billion for our own borders? Something is terribly wrong with that and the blame falls solely on the republicans shoulders.
JI7
(89,252 posts)Initech
(100,080 posts)And I'm guessing that it's the military industrial complex in this case.
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)Starts with 'guided' and ends with 'missiles'
Uben
(7,719 posts)...as long as the defense contractors make money, it's okay. If the monies actually saves the lives of children but there's no profit in it, it can't be had. Truly pitiful.
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)It probably wouldn't be happening if mh17 landed safely.
Not that one could or would affect the other but does seem to be rather tidy course of events.
nationalize the fed
(2,169 posts)The blame the other side thing is way way obsolete, if you pay attention
The posts about this in the past have sunk like rocks. Fact sheet posted in full because it's a press release.
FACT SHEET: U.S. Crisis Support Package for Ukraine
President Obama and Vice President Biden have made U.S. support for Ukraine an urgent priority as the Ukrainian government works to establish security and stability, pursue democratic elections and constitutional reform, revive its economy, and ensure government institutions are transparent and accountable to the Ukrainian people. Ukraine embarks on this reform path in the face of severe challenges to its sovereignty and territorial integrity, which we are working to address together with Ukraine and our partners in the international community.
The United States is committed to ensuring that Ukrainians alone are able to determine their countrys future without intimidation or coercion from outside forces. To support Ukraine, we are today announcing a new package of assistance totaling $50 million to help Ukraine pursue political and economic reform and strengthen the partnership between the United States and Ukraine.
Elections and Constitutional Reform: Constitutional reform and free and fair elections are keys to Ukraines democratic development. Assistance in this area is a down payment on the countrys democratic development. We stand ready to provide further assistance to the new government after elections.
The United States is contributing an $11.4 million package to support the integrity of the May 25 elections. These funds are being used to advance democratic processes not to support a particular candidate or electoral outcome. These efforts include voter education programs, transparent election administration, effective oversight of the election process, election security and a redress of infractions, and a diverse, balanced and policy-focused media environment.
The United States is contributing support and monitors to the OSCEs election observation mission and other monitoring groups. U.S. funded programs will provide at least 250 long-term observers and over 1,700 short-term observers.
We are also sending additional experts to provide advice on issues such as constitutional checks and balances, local governance, public participation, and the establishment of an independent, transparent judicial system.
Economic Assistance: The United States has already signed a $1 billion loan guarantee to help Ukraine meet its financial obligations and protect vulnerable citizens from the impact of economic adjustments. We have also supported Ukraines work with the IMF to secure a loan program worth $14-$18 billion. As these U.S., IMF, and European funds begin to flow, we will have technical experts from the U.S. Treasury Department on the ground to help the Ukrainian government allocate them effectively to stabilize the economy and ensure all the regions benefit. Currently, there are three banking advisors in Kyiv and we will be deploying public debt management and macroeconomic advisors in the coming week. We are also committed to providing additional technical assistance in the areas of budget and tax administration.
Energy Security: Over the coming weeks, expert teams from several U.S. government agencies will travel to the region to help Ukraine meet immediate and longer term energy needs.
Today, a U.S. interagency expert team arrived in Kyiv to help Ukraine secure reverse flows of natural gas from its European neighbors. The team will continue on to Poland, Hungary, and Slovakia in the coming days to work on the details of these arrangements. Reverse flows of natural gas will provide Ukraine with additional immediate sources of energy.
(*Not in the White House Press Release
U.S. technical experts will join with the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development and others in May to help Ukraine develop a public-private investment initiative to increase conventional gas production from existing fields to boost domestic energy supply. A technical team will also engage the government on measures that will help the Ukrainian government ensure swift and environmentally sustainable implementation of contracts signed in 2013 for shale gas development.
Department of Energy and USAID specialists will travel to Ukraine next month to provide advice on how to maximize energy efficiency, which could deliver potentially huge cost savings to Ukraine and rationalize energy consumption.
Rule of Law and Anti-Corruption: The United States is committed to helping Ukraine break the cycle of corruption that acts as a tax on business, an impediment to economic growth, and a drain on public trust in government. Technical advisors from the Departments of State and Justice have already been advising the government on anti-corruption measures. Today we are expanding this assistance program with additional commitments.
Attorney General Holder will co-host an international conference in London April 29-30 to help identify, trace, and recover proceeds of corruption stolen by the former regime. This is part of an ongoing effort, including work by an FBI investigative team on the ground in Kyiv to help the government of Ukraine recover assets stolen from the Ukrainian people.
The United States will provide advice and assistance to help modernize Ukraines government procurement in accordance with international standards, including the creation of a vetted anti-corruption unit. We will offer technical assistance to that vetted unit to help build a sustainable anti-corruption regime within Ukraine, as we have done with substantial results in other parts of the world.
Specialized teams of prosecutors and investigators will help the Ukrainian government with other forms of technical assistance to put in place the proper legal and regulatory framework to fight corruption. The teams will also serve as a resource to ensure follow-through and effective implementation.
People-to-People Ties: To further strengthen ties between the people of Ukraine and the United States, we are announcing our intent to establish a new bilateral visa regime that will extend the standard validity of visas for businesspeople and tourists from 5 years to 10 years on a negotiated reciprocal basis.
Security Assistance: In addition to the $50 million package, today we are announcing the provision of $8 million of non-lethal military assistance to allow the Ukrainian armed forces and State Border Guard Service to fulfill their core security missions. The additional supplies include:
Explosive Ordnance Disposal equipment and handheld radios for Ukraines Armed Forces.
Engineering equipment, communications equipment, vehicles, and non-lethal individual tactical gear for Ukraines Border Guard Service.
This is in addition to the $3 million of Meals Ready to Eat and nearly $7 million of health and welfare assistance the United States is already providing to Ukraine. The United States will continue to actively review requests for additional support as Ukraines government further modernizes its armed forces and deals with evolving threats.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/04/21/fact-sheet-us-crisis-support-package-ukraine
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)You might just want to update your OP
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/08/01/readout-vice-presidents-call-ukrainian-president-petro-poroshenko
Just knock about 7 Billion off that your figure.
Uben
(7,719 posts)The headline says $8 billion gifted to Ukraine for border security
edit: I see where UPI has corrected their mistake to reflect the $8 million number. Thanks for the heads up
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Sending military aid to Ukraine is insane.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)We did promise to help Ukraine secure its borders and protect its sovereignty, 20 years ago. They got rid of their nukes--Russia isn't living up to its promise to respect Ukraine's borders for doing so--do we live up to our promises or not? BTW, I read that it was $8 million, not 8 billion--will have to check other sources.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)to keep the whole Ukraine together. I suppose we do it to let Western Europe off the hook, since they don't want to aggravate the Russians. However, to your question: When did we pay rather for social or infrastructure in our own country than for MIC!