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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsU.S. Official Statement on Latest School Bombing Condemns IDF: "Disgraceful", "Appalled". Criminal.
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What kind of a "war" is it when one side is in a prison with 3 exits controlled by the side outside the prison with one of the worlds strongest armies and Air Force? Wake up America. Shake off the impulse to run with the lemmings. Your mind is more powerful than a thousand media outlets with a thousand agendas.
A turkey shoot war, where Gaza is the barrel and everyone in it is a turkey, that is what you should be seeing.
"The United States is appalled by today's disgraceful shelling outside a UNRWA school in Rafah sheltering some 3,000 displaced persons, in which at least ten more Palestinian civilians were tragically killed. The coordinates of the school, like all UN facilities in Gaza have been repeatedly communicated to the Israeli Defence Forces. We once again stress that Israel needs to do more to meet its own standards and avoid civilian casualties."
U.S. Department of State
(Count the number of Israeli spy microphones behind the flags....)
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Essentially accusing the IDF of war crimes. About freaking time.
Can evil be shamed to change?
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And this:
Source: CBCNEWS
A United Nations school sheltering displaced people in the southern Gaza Strip was hit Sunday by what a UN official said appeared to be an Israeli airstrike, an attack that killed 10 people as Israel signaled a possible scaling back in the ongoing war.
"This attack, along with other breaches of international law, must be swiftly investigated and those responsible held accountable," the UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said. "It is a moral outrage and a criminal act."
The U.S. State Department also chimed in saying it was "appalled" by the "disgraceful shelling."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/gaza-strike-near-un-school-a-criminal-act-says-ban-ki-moon-1.2726449
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UN also accuses IDF of war crimes, as another UN relief official, their 11th, surrenders his life as a human shield.
2naSalit
(86,780 posts)yeah, like the mother of a spoiled-rotten child on a rampage looking over and saying in a non-concerned voice, "Don't do that, dear".
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)cynic that I am about this issue in particular, I think it's because there is widespread condemnation form other sources and the propaganda machine has to make itself look like it's trying to be fair on occasions of this magnitude.
But I would like to hope that your take on it were the reality... I just feel that it's isn't, sadly. Too much money is being made for TPTB for us to actually do the right thing here.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)2naSalit
(86,780 posts)truly do hope you are right about that.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)2naSalit
(86,780 posts)yeah. But it rarely turns out in favor of my hopes.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)2naSalit
(86,780 posts)And how unfortunate for so many.
CtDemoFarmer
(32 posts)the vast majority of the bombs and bullets have Made in the USA printed on them.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)the "Rapture" unfolds.
Duval
(4,280 posts)PatSeg
(47,591 posts)We would like to see more outrage, but unfortunately this will take time and will rely heavily on public opinion.
TBF
(32,093 posts)Next comes amends. Maybe we should reconsider all that aid that is being used to bomb people?
We could use that money for other things. Curing Ebola for example - just to name one thing staring us in the face.
2naSalit
(86,780 posts)you are right about that. As the funds we send there are "fungible"... meaning they are used as the Israeli government sees fit without our having any say about it. We might tell them that we want them to spend it a certain way but when it all is said and done, they use it for settlements and furthering the pogrom against Palestinians.
CtDemoFarmer
(32 posts)2naSalit
(86,780 posts)if the aid id $$, it is used for weapons and oppression; if it is in the form of weapons, so what's the difference? Still fungible in the sense that they will use it as they choose regardless of the initial form in which it arrives.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)It's his plan for removing the Palestinians in a letter sent to Netanyahu. Posted on Friday.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Translation
BH for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu Prime Minister just learned that Hamas took advantage of the Truce to kidnap an officer. It turns out that this operation is not going to end so quickly.
The failures in the operation were interred from the beginning because: 1 it has no proper purpose and clear.
2. There is no proper moral shell that supports our troops.
What is needed now is to internalize the principles that our country is over only our country including Gaza!
No two States and two peoples there is only one country, one people.
This internalization of strategic change required is deep and thorough, both in defining the enemy, both in defining the mission, both in defining the strategic and target-setting gives the right and necessary.
1 setting the strategic enemy enemy is radical Islam, Western grorotav of Iran and of Gaza seeking to wipe out Israel as a whole.
The enemy in the eye is Hamas.
(Not the tunnels, Hamas's rocket-) 2 setting mission: conquest of the Gaza Strip and eliminating all the warriors and their supporters.
3 strategic target setting: turn Gaza to Tel Aviv. Israeli city blooms with hostile civilians minimum.
4 the definition says: "Oh, fighting evil and woe to the home" in light of these four points for Israel to immediately do the following: 1. the IDF will open spaces on the Sinai border and near the sea that concentrate on the civilian population far from the built-up areas and launch and tunneling. These areas will be set up tents to camps to locate relevant immigration targets.
Electricity and water for populated areas will be disconnected.
In the areas that were populated with iopgazo maximum firepower. The Hamas civil and military means and logistics will be eliminated to the ground.
3. the IDF around dissecting the Gaza Strip to length and wide, extending from the delegates, will take over areas that control and destroy nests of resistance should remain like this.
4. start by locating countries Israel and immigration quotas for refugees of Gaza. Looking to migrate to win economic assistance package and will be open to countries with significant economic potential.
The who insists on staying and proven that has no connection with Hamas will be required to sign a public statement about citizenship to Israel and will receive a blue identity card is similar to that of Arabs in East Jerusalem.
And with the pull is applied Israeli law in the Gaza Strip, expelled from Gush Katif will be invited back to their settlements and Gaza City and her daughters will be built as a commercial Israeli cities and everything.
Mr. Prime Minister!
This is a fateful decision in time of the State of Israel.
Every enemy of Iran, metastasis and Hezbollah and the Muslim Brotherhood and דע"ש are uncertain whether their hands with pleasure now and are preparing themselves for next round.
I had that each outcome is less than defined here means encouraging continued against Israel, initiating. Only if you understand how the patient's hizballa Hamas in the South, do not shoot the rocket his 100,000 North.
I urge you to adopt the strategy proposed here.
I have no doubt realized, the entire stand with Israel in an overwhelming majority for the right if you will follow.
With dignity and esteem Moshe feiglin (Translated by Bing)
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)CtDemoFarmer
(32 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)In honor of
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
Mr. Prime Minister
Just learned that Hamas used the ceasefire to grab an officer. It turns out that this campaign is not going to end so soon.
Failures in the operation were buried in the beginning that:
A - It has no proper purpose and clear.
At Shell no proper moral support our soldiers.
What is needed now is to internalize that Oslo is over, this is our land - only our country, including Gaza!
No two countries and no two peoples - there is only one state for one people.
Following this internalization strategic change required a deep and fundamental - are defining the enemy, both in defining the mission, both in defining the strategic objective, and of course - the definition of morality and right fighting required.
1 - Defining the enemy
Strategic enemy is radical Arab Islam all its derivatives from Iran to Gaza seeking to destroy Israel as a whole.
Hamas is the enemy in the eye.
(Tunnels, rocket - Hamas)
2 - Defining the task:
Conquest of the entire Gaza Strip and elimination of all armed forces and their supporters.
3 - Setting strategic objective:
Turn Gaza and Jaffa. Israeli city booming with a minimum of hostile civilians.
4 - Set the morality of combat:
"Oh wicked and woe to his neighbor"
In light of these four points on Israel immediately execute the following:
A - IDF define open spaces on the Sinai border and in close proximity to the sea which will focus on the civilian population - far from built-up area and launch areas and tunneling. These areas will be set up tent camps to locate relevant immigration goals.
Electricity and water supply to areas that were occupied - clear.
On populated areas were shelled maximum firepower. All facilities Hamas civilian and military, means of communication and logistics - would be eliminated completely.
C - the IDF will break the strap length and width, greatly expand the delegates, will take over areas of control and destroy nests of resistance when these remain.
D - Israel will begin identifying countries and the Gaza refugees quotas. Wishing to emigrate to receive generous financial aid package and will reach the receiving countries with significant financial ability.
The who insists on staying and it is proved that it has no connection to Hamas, will be required to sign a public declaration of loyalty to Israel and gets blue identity card similar to that of the Arabs of East Jerusalem.
And when the fighting ended applied Israeli law throughout the Gaza Strip, Gush Katif expellees will be invited to return to their communities and the city of Gaza and daughters will be built tourist cities and trade Israel for all.
Mr. Prime Minister!
This is a time of fateful decision of Israel's days.
All metastases enemy, Iran and Hezbollah to Da"s and the Muslim Brotherhood - now rubbing their hands in delight and prepare themselves for the next round.
I warned that the result is less than defined here, means encouraging the continued offensive against Israel. Only if you understand how standardized Hhizballa Hamas in the south, will prevent from sending the 100,000 missiles - to the north.
I urge you to adopt the strategy proposed here.
I am sure that like me, the people of Israel will be overwhelmingly on your right - if only to adopt.
Sincerely and with great appreciation
Moshe Feiglin
2banon
(7,321 posts)Response to Marrah_G (Reply #7)
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Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)An Israeli that called the Palestinians "cockroaches" I reminded him that Hitler also called Jewish people "cockroaches and rats"
2banon
(7,321 posts)The way I'm seeing it, the Israeli Zionist State has been engaged with a more modern, "acceptable" form of "ethnic cleansing". This has been going on for over 60+ years, but in recent years a plan to bombard/kill every 2-4 years seems to be their strategy. All they have to do to is pull out the same tired meme to use as pretext/justification.
regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)
unlike every other bombing of a U.N. school?
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)"Statement by UNRWA Commissioner General, Pierre Krähenbühl, and Director of UNRWA Operations in Gaza, Robert Turner
Gaza
This morning at about 1045 Gaza time there was an Israeli missile strike adjacent to the main gate of the UNRWA Boys Prep School A in the town of Rafah, in southern Gaza. We believe as many as nine people were killed, including an UNRWA guard, and 27 were injured. Almost three thousand people had registered at the school, one of ninety which we are using as temporary shelters for some 260,000 displaced people across the Gaza strip.
On six occasions since the start of the conflict, UNRWA schools housing the displaced were subject to direct shelling. This is the first time a strike in the immediate vicinity of one of our premises, of which there have been several, caused fatalities. As in previous incidents, UNRWA had notified the Israeli Army of the location of the school to make sure that it was protected from the violence that has so dramatically affected the entire population of Gaza, displacing a total of at least 475,000 people. For this particular installation we notified the Israeli Army on 33 separate occasions that this school in Rafah was being used to accommodate the displaced, the last time only an hour before the incident.
The incident in Rafah is a further tragic and unacceptable reminder that there is nowhere safe in Gaza for people to take refuge. No one feels secure and given that Gaza is enclosed by a barrier, there is also nowhere safe for them to run. While UNRWA will continue to provide all possible aid and protection to the displaced, we remind the parties that they must respect the sanctity of civilian life, the inviolability of UN property and that they must abide their obligations under international humanitarian law to protect civilians and humanitarian workers.
We are painfully aware of how dangerous working in Gaza is. In the last hours before the Rafah incident, confirmation had come through that another UNRWA worker, our eleventh, was killed. Our hearts goes out to their families and loved ones at this terrible time."
malaise
(269,157 posts)About time
Laughing Mirror
(4,185 posts)to check and double check and then check again, just to make sure they know exactly where to strike.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)you felt the need to goose it up?
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)pa28
(6,145 posts)In the Sri Lankan Civil War the government used the same tactic in safe areas. The Red Cross would supply coordinates of hospitals in the "safe area" and the Army would just turn around and use those coodinates for shelling.
After a string of attacks on UN schools and hospitals we can see it's no accident. We're watching a war of ethnic cleansing being fought with many of our own weapons.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Not on the fighters nearby, right on top of the schools. Yep.
G_j
(40,370 posts)duh....
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)4now
(1,596 posts)The boycotts, divestments a sanctions against Israeli apartheid are coming next.
kath
(10,565 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)The US is so dishonest in its covering for Israel that it is a disgrace.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)and their fellow travelers are on members of congress like flies on shit 24/7 with enough "contributions" to see they stay on message and keep the money flowing like milk and honey.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)The end of Ramadan just before three Israeli F_15s sent 2.5 tons of high explosives into the nearby school, medical center, power station, and UN safe zone twenty seconds later.
IDF: "Clearly, the four year old was training to be a Hamas assasin, so we simply protected ourselves by killing 147 bystanders who were training him to be a killer. The fact that they were in line for food and water only says how far these terrorists are willing to go, hiding their future terrorists in line for food. We will exterminate them all. But only if our US lackies supply enough bullets and bombs. Hm. Maybe poison gas would be more efficient."
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)noamnety
(20,234 posts)"We once again stress that Israel needs to do more to meet its own standards and avoid civilian casualties."
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,420 posts)Thanks for the thread, Fred Sanders.