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Is Hawaii going to be hit with Two Hurricanes? (Original Post) lovuian Aug 2014 OP
Well this should be fun LondonReign2 Aug 2014 #1
That does look ominous. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #2
Well, I'm out here on Kauai and we're preparing for the worst and hoping for the best.. Cha Aug 2014 #3
I'm glad you playing it safe lovuian Aug 2014 #5
Mahalo, lovuian.. Yeah, back to back and in August! But, that's the way Cha Aug 2014 #11
Isn't the direction it's coming from --the east--uncommon too? Blue_Roses Aug 2014 #43
Mahalo Blue Roses! I just found this.. about "unusual".. 'cause I don't know.. Cha Aug 2014 #46
Another good resource GP6971 Aug 2014 #51
Mahalo, GP! Cha Aug 2014 #54
You're welcome GP6971 Aug 2014 #56
Thank you.. :) Cha Aug 2014 #58
Stay safe, Cha. sheshe2 Aug 2014 #6
Mahalo, she! Cha Aug 2014 #12
Be safe Cha. lovemydog Aug 2014 #8
I will, lovemydog! Mahalo.. hopefully the electricity doesn't go.. and we all lose our Cha Aug 2014 #13
Be safe, Cha... GReedDiamond Aug 2014 #16
Mahalo GReedDiamond! Cha Aug 2014 #19
A little musical interlude to get your revved up for the storm... Hopefully you'll escape a ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #20
Ridin' the Storm Out! Excellent choice, CTD! Cha Aug 2014 #22
Love Kauai. Wishing you well. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #26
Thanks JD! :) Cha Aug 2014 #27
I'll be worried about you. bravenak Aug 2014 #29
Mahalo, bravenak~! Cha Aug 2014 #30
Neither will hit you sis malaise Aug 2014 #39
Mahalo, malaise.. here's to everyone being safe! Cha Aug 2014 #47
Be safe, Cha! nt City Lights Aug 2014 #52
Mahalo, City Lights~! Cha Aug 2014 #55
windy, rainy, not hurricane-y tho nt msongs Aug 2014 #4
Looking forward to surfing 24-footers at JAWS on Maui Friday Submariner Aug 2014 #7
I'm not even sure I'd watch. lovemydog Aug 2014 #9
The die hard local pros don't let a little beach closing get in their way Submariner Aug 2014 #31
If you're there, have a wonderful time Submariner! lovemydog Aug 2014 #33
"JAWS"?! I'm on Kaua'i, Submariner.. Good Luck and Have fun Surfing! Cha Aug 2014 #14
We're going to get hit with what's left over from passing over the Big Island Submariner Aug 2014 #32
We shall see.. I hear Julio's coming in from the North, though.. Cha Aug 2014 #35
that's so cool! Blue_Roses Aug 2014 #44
I actually knew what you were talking about ! Marrah_G Aug 2014 #62
stay safe, Cha and all Hawai'ians ! steve2470 Aug 2014 #10
Mahalo steve! Would you do me a favor Cha Aug 2014 #15
will do and mahalo !!! nt steve2470 Aug 2014 #17
Muchas Gracias, steve! Cha Aug 2014 #18
Keep us posted lovuian Aug 2014 #48
I will lovuian.. thank you. I just talked to my son and he's concerned Cha Aug 2014 #49
Iselle is strengthening and looks to be a Hurricane Cat I lovuian Aug 2014 #60
Well, that was nice and simple and direct.. and just Cha Aug 2014 #61
I will and glad it helped lovuian Aug 2014 #63
Mahalo, lovuian.. Counting down the days till strike day! Just found this little tidbit.. Cha Aug 2014 #68
k&r Blue_Roses Aug 2014 #45
kick nt steve2470 Aug 2014 #21
Big Kick.. mahalo again, lovuian~ Cha Aug 2014 #23
Batten down the hatches, Cha, and stay safe and dry. Hekate Aug 2014 #24
Mahalo, Hekate.. it seems surreal to have this much warning.. going along dealing with other Cha Aug 2014 #25
From the sci-fi channel to your living room, literally. I hope they change track a bit and DocwillCuNow Aug 2014 #28
k & r for my buds Cha & Sub! lovemydog Aug 2014 #34
Mahalo, lovemydog! This is the track as of today from the Honolulu Star.. Cha Aug 2014 #42
US Geological Survey reports a magnitude-4.3 earthquake rattles Hawaii, as storms near islands lovuian Aug 2014 #66
Thanks, lov! I just linked to that in my post downthread.. nm Cha Aug 2014 #69
k&r...just left Maui on Sunday. Deuce Aug 2014 #36
Do I smell the plot of Sharknado 3? AngryAmish Aug 2014 #37
Ugh... But hell, why not, lol? nt ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #40
Neither will be a hurricane by landfall - Iselle will hit Hawaii as a Tropical Storm malaise Aug 2014 #38
pretty much Baclava Aug 2014 #41
Obviously this is happening because whistler162 Aug 2014 #50
None obxhead Aug 2014 #53
Looking that way mahina Aug 2014 #57
I have to say this Iselle looks like a Hurricane to me lovuian Aug 2014 #59
Water gone off theshelves and people bunkering down lovuian Aug 2014 #64
For Cha lovuian Aug 2014 #65
Looks like Cha's going to be ridin' the storm out! Best to the Cha and the Big Island nt ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #67
Mahalo CTD.. still waiting for the shoe to drop.. so to speak. But, READY! Cha Aug 2014 #71
Thank you, lovuian.. sorry I missed this until now. That's so nice! Cha Aug 2014 #70
How's it going Cha? lovemydog Aug 2014 #72
Hey lovemydog! I can tell you we had rain like tigers and lions early this morining Cha Aug 2014 #73
Stay safe malaise Aug 2014 #74
Mahalo malaise~ Cha Aug 2014 #75
So glad you're okay Cha. lovemydog Aug 2014 #76
Will do.. Cha Aug 2014 #77
Just spoke with a buddy in Maui. lovemydog Aug 2014 #78

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
1. Well this should be fun
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 10:12 PM
Aug 2014

The family and I are (scheduled to) leave for Hawaii on Friday morning. I suspect plans may get altered.

Uncle Joe

(58,378 posts)
2. That does look ominous.
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 10:12 PM
Aug 2014




This situation is "unprecedented," says top Weather Channel meteorologist Kevin Roth, who notes that in 1982—the closest analogy—two weak tropical storms arrived in Hawaii separated by 10 days. Adds Jeff Masters of Weather Underground:

It's been a very active hurricane season in the Eastern Pacific, which has seen 10 named storms, 4 hurricanes, and 3 intense hurricanes so far in 2014. On average, we expect to see 6 named storms, 3 hurricanes, and 1 intense hurricane by August 4 in the Eastern Pacific.




Thanks for the thread, lovuian.

Cha

(297,425 posts)
3. Well, I'm out here on Kauai and we're preparing for the worst and hoping for the best..
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 10:21 PM
Aug 2014

thank you for bringing it up, lovuian.

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
5. I'm glad you playing it safe
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 11:47 PM
Aug 2014

they say this is a possible result of a large El Nino event building up in the Pacific
It's strange to see back to back storms like that

Cha

(297,425 posts)
11. Mahalo, lovuian.. Yeah, back to back and in August! But, that's the way
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 12:56 AM
Aug 2014

it's rolling right now.

Talking about Hawaii here/AKA/The Big Island..

snip//

"CNN) -- Tropical cyclones in the Pacific do not worry some Hawaiian residents because direct hits historically have been so rare on the islands. Hawaii is a small target in a large ocean.

But the state finds itself prepping ahead of what could be a pair of back-to-back smacks from Hurricane Iselle and Tropical Storm Julio.

Even if these two storms weaken or don't make landfall -- as is usually the case around Hawaii -- they can still cause damage, including flooding and debris, experts warn."


"People are not really nervous, but honestly just hoping for some good surf," said Murray, who owns the Hilo Surfboard Company. "Surfers get excited when hurricane season starts. The people here are really nonchalant and are used to rain, which is the main thing we are expecting."

snip//

"..There are no lines at the supermarket or stocking of supplies, even though Iselle is on a forecast track to hit the islands on Thursday."

"I'm not worried about this storm," Murray said.

snip//

"A primer on Hurricane in Hawaii by the University of Hawaii says just as much: "Hurricanes are relatively rare events in the Hawaiian islands."


MOre..
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/05/us/hawaii-storms/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

That last paragraph cracks me up.. it's like they can't remember back 22 years ago when the really big one hit Kaua'i on 9/11/92. We do.. I can report that most of the food, water, & batteries around here are Off the shelves.. After Iniki in 1992.. Kauaians aren't taking any chances..

Blue_Roses

(12,894 posts)
43. Isn't the direction it's coming from --the east--uncommon too?
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 04:30 PM
Aug 2014

My grandparents lived in Galveston and as a kid, me and my sister would spend summers there. I guess that is why I've always found hurricanes fascinating-although, respectful of them knowing how "tempermental" they can be!

With that said, this caught my eye early on because of the direction it is coming from--and another one following! Are there seawalls? I will keep you and the islands in my thoughts and prayers. Be safe and keep us posted!



Cha

(297,425 posts)
46. Mahalo Blue Roses! I just found this.. about "unusual".. 'cause I don't know..
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 04:46 PM
Aug 2014

"I don't know if it is related to global warming, but it is quite unusual for two hurricanes to follow the same track just days apart. The one-two punch would be unprecedented in the era of satellite hurricane tracking, said Kevin Roth, a meteorologist for The Weather Channel. One thing is certain, hurricanes feed of the energy of warm ocean surfaces. Global warming will only make them more frequent and stronger."

http://islandbreath.blogspot.com/2014/08/iselle-and-julio-come-to-visit.html

And, this..

"Two big storms so close together is rare in the eastern Pacific, and Hurricane Iselle could hit by Friday and Tropical Storm Julio could hit two or three days later, weather officials said."

http://news.yahoo.com/hawaii-stocks-water-2-major-storms-loom-195611139.html

Cha

(297,425 posts)
54. Mahalo, GP!
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 08:42 PM
Aug 2014

Tropical Storm Tracker: There are 5 active systems as of 7 Aug, 0:38 GMT

HALONG NW Pacific 24.2 N 131.4 E 90 kts 2 27.1 N 131.5 E 90 kts 2
ISELLE NE Pacific 17.2 N 145.9 W 80 kts 1 18.3 N 151.2 W 70 kts 1
BERTHA N Atlantic 40.2 N 62.7 W 45 kts TS 45.0 N 52.5 W 40 kts TS
GENEVIEVE NE Pacific 13.5 N 178.4 W 75 kts 1 15.9 N 177.0 E 95 kts 2
JULIO NE Pacific 15.8 N 131.8 W 65 kts 1 16.9 N 137.4 W 70 kts

http://www.tropicalstormrisk.com/tracker/dynamic/main.html

Cha

(297,425 posts)
12. Mahalo, she!
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 01:02 AM
Aug 2014

It's getting weird here.. the store downstairs has been so busy like you'd expect a Whole Foods in LA to be.. so much of the food and water is off the shelves now.. expecting another shipment tomorrow because they usual time is Friday and the seas will be too rough!

Cha

(297,425 posts)
13. I will, lovemydog! Mahalo.. hopefully the electricity doesn't go.. and we all lose our
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 01:04 AM
Aug 2014

food and connections!

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
20. A little musical interlude to get your revved up for the storm... Hopefully you'll escape a
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 01:25 AM
Aug 2014

direct hit both times. We'll all be sending our energy your way, Cha, for your safety and well-being and for that of the people of Hawaii.

Cha

(297,425 posts)
22. Ridin' the Storm Out! Excellent choice, CTD!
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 02:01 AM
Aug 2014

Mahalo for all your good energy being sent out our way.

Cha

(297,425 posts)
30. Mahalo, bravenak~!
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 06:52 AM
Aug 2014

It really does help with all these "stay safe" wishes.. Hopefully, Iselle and Julio won't be too intense when they make landfall after churning up out there in the Pacific..

malaise

(269,103 posts)
39. Neither will hit you sis
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 07:46 AM
Aug 2014

both are weakening big time - Iselle will be a Tropical Storm by landfall. Julio will miss you all.

Submariner

(12,504 posts)
7. Looking forward to surfing 24-footers at JAWS on Maui Friday
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 12:33 AM
Aug 2014

or at least watching the other brave souls try to survive it.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
9. I'm not even sure I'd watch.
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 12:38 AM
Aug 2014

That sounds suicidal.

Don't they close off Jaws to any access during such times? It's too damn dangerous.

Though I would try and enjoy a nice lunch at Mama's Fish House.

Submariner

(12,504 posts)
31. The die hard local pros don't let a little beach closing get in their way
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 06:57 AM
Aug 2014

but they are also smart enough to turn away if Jaws isn't breaking right.

Submariner

(12,504 posts)
32. We're going to get hit with what's left over from passing over the Big Island
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 07:11 AM
Aug 2014

so it should just be a strong breeze by the time it gets to you Cha.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
62. I actually knew what you were talking about !
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 01:14 AM
Aug 2014

I recently read a book called The Wave- It was great. If I hadn't read it I would have thought you were talking about big sharks

Cha

(297,425 posts)
15. Mahalo steve! Would you do me a favor
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 01:07 AM
Aug 2014

and Rec this so it can at least get on the greatest? I'm going to keep kicking it as long as I can.

It's really helpful.. out here waiting for it..

Cha

(297,425 posts)
49. I will lovuian.. thank you. I just talked to my son and he's concerned
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 07:33 PM
Aug 2014

about the "unpredictability of Julio" .. so we shall see. We might be without electricity at some point so that wouldn't be good. And, our Primary Election Day is on Saturday so I'm hoping that goes okay.

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
60. Iselle is strengthening and looks to be a Hurricane Cat I
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 12:59 AM
Aug 2014


I have to say disappointed in the news out there

they have played this down

Cha

(297,425 posts)
61. Well, that was nice and simple and direct.. and just
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 01:10 AM
Aug 2014

a little bit scary!

Weather Alert Central.com looks like a good site! Thanks lovuan~ I'm going to send this link to my son.

Looks like it's an app.. so if you see anything on Julio I would really appreciate it..



lovuian

(19,362 posts)
63. I will and glad it helped
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 12:40 PM
Aug 2014

It's very frustrating and your right Julio is barely talked about Sheesh

Cha

(297,425 posts)
68. Mahalo, lovuian.. Counting down the days till strike day! Just found this little tidbit..
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 05:07 PM
Aug 2014
As Hawaii braces for Hurricanes Iselle, Julio, 4.5 quake hits Waimea

As Hawaii braced Thursday for two hurricanes -- which would be the first to hit the state in 22 years -- a magnitude 4.5 earthquake shook Waimea on the eastern shore of the Big Island, according to the U.S. Geological Survey..

The Pacific Tsunami Warning Center said some areas may have experienced shaking, but no tsunami was expected. The earthquake hit at a depth of 7.9 miles.

There were no reports of damage from the 6:24 a.m. temblor, but the news heightened the concerns of island residents, who have been stocking up on food and water in anticipation of the approaching storms

More and satellite image at the link..
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-hawaii-iselle-julio-20140807-story.html

Cha

(297,425 posts)
25. Mahalo, Hekate.. it seems surreal to have this much warning.. going along dealing with other
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 06:17 AM
Aug 2014

challenges and then .. oh yeah, we could have a hurricane by the end of the week! It has been awhile. And, in '92 we got only a few hours warning starting at 5amish.. for a cat 4 if not a 5er..

The food, water, and batteries have been flying off the shelves here on Kaua'i.. seems most people have a good memory of 9/11/92 and Hurricane Iniki.. and not taking any chances!

http://thegardenisland.com/news/local/weather-watch/article_3a1f380e-1b9b-11e4-aa48-0019bb2963f4.html

 

DocwillCuNow

(162 posts)
28. From the sci-fi channel to your living room, literally. I hope they change track a bit and
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 06:27 AM
Aug 2014

spare them the brunt of it.

On edit to add: I'm so glad the climate change deniers can sleep comfortably, perhaps Rush was planning a trip to the islands this weekend, he could get a turd's eye view of his denial in action.

Cha

(297,425 posts)
42. Mahalo, lovemydog! This is the track as of today from the Honolulu Star..
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 04:20 PM
Aug 2014
"The tracks of Iselle and Julio are definitely a call to prepare," state Emergency Management Administrator Doug Mayne said Tuesday. "Our goal isn't to scare anyone, but we want to make sure Hawaii's citizens and visitors have what they need to stay safe and healthy. People should have their emergency plans and seven-day kits in place and consider preparing their homes and businesses for high winds and flooding."

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/20140805_Iselle_weakens_slightly_as_2_storms_head_toward_Hawaii.html

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
66. US Geological Survey reports a magnitude-4.3 earthquake rattles Hawaii, as storms near islands
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 12:57 PM
Aug 2014

4.3 earthquake rattles Hawaii,

malaise

(269,103 posts)
38. Neither will be a hurricane by landfall - Iselle will hit Hawaii as a Tropical Storm
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 07:45 AM
Aug 2014

but TS Julio will miss all the islands

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
41. pretty much
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 02:32 PM
Aug 2014
Rare Twin Hurricanes Headed Towards Hawaii



Rare twin Category 1 hurricanes are nearing Hawaii as Hurricane Iselle, with 85 mph winds, and Hurricane Julio, with 75 mph winds, steam west-northwest towards the islands. Both hurricanes are expected to weaken to tropical storms before they affect Hawaii. Iselle is the bigger danger, as it is expected to make a direct hit on Thursday evening, while Julio's center is expected to pass about 100 miles to the northeast of the islands on Sunday. Satellite images show that Iselle has weakened significantly over the past day. Though the hurricane still has a prominent eye, the eyewall's heavy thunderstorms are much reduced in intensity and areal coverage, due to wind shear and dry air

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=2750
 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
53. None
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 08:39 PM
Aug 2014

The first will pass over the islands as a tropical storm at the worst, the second will pass off to the north creating swells the surfers flock to.

The first is already falling apart and dry air is pumping in.

Edit: original post was silly. Stay safe, hope for the weakest storms.

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
64. Water gone off theshelves and people bunkering down
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 12:46 PM
Aug 2014
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/weather/hawaii-braces-hurricane-iselle-hurricane-julio-next-n174736

They strengthened....the water temps are warm

Julio outer wave bands are going to hit at the same time

Now it looks like people will be scrambling and emergency alert sounded

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
65. For Cha
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 12:52 PM
Aug 2014
http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2014/08/hurricane_2014_update_hurrican.html

A tropical storm warning was upgraded to a hurricane warning Wednesday for the Big Island, or Hawaii County, and a tropical storm warning was in effect for Maui County and Oahu.

A tropical storm watch was issued for Kauai County.

The Central Pacific Hurricane Center said late Wednesday that the center of Iselle was expected to pass very near or over the Big Island Thursday night, and pass just south of the smaller islands Friday.

Julio was located about 1,455 miles east of Hilo late Wednesday and was moving west-northwest at 16 mph.

Julio had winds of 85 mph, making it a Category 1 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson scale.
The Latest news is Julio is going to get stronger its moving in over warmer waters and following the same path as Iselle

Bunker down Cha

Cha

(297,425 posts)
70. Thank you, lovuian.. sorry I missed this until now. That's so nice!
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 01:46 AM
Aug 2014

I just found this but there is so many conflicting reports.. But, it's only Friday and we'll see after the weekend. We're not getting anything really Yet!

Primary voting is tomorrow so hoping that goes okay!

snip//

Kauai and Western Islands:

Kauai took the brunt of Hawaii’s last hurricane strike, Iniki, in 1992, but should have the least impacts of the major islands this time around. Still, folks on Kauai can expect up to a foot of heavy rain from Iselle alone and additional rain from Julio until Monday night. Flash floods and mudslides are nearly certain in places.

Thanks to warming seas and expected changes in atmospheric circulation patterns associated with climate change, Hawaii’s hurricane threat is expected to increase in coming decades. A recent study showed this effect could send two to three times more storms Hawaii’s way by the end of the century. Since Hawaii’s hurricanes are so rare, such an increase might be difficult to detect, however."


http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/08/06/hurricane_iselle_tropical_storm_julio_what_hawaii_can_expect.html

Cha

(297,425 posts)
73. Hey lovemydog! I can tell you we had rain like tigers and lions early this morining
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 05:10 PM
Aug 2014

around 2am and the electricity went off for about a 1/2 a second.. and then the rain slowed down after about a 1/2 an hour! Just a light rain now.

The Tropical Storm Warning has been discontinued for all islands


These pics are from the wake of Iselle..







More..
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/26167902/ts-iselle-forms-in-eastern-pacific

Now we're waiting for Julio to do what it wants it do..

Going to go vote very soon! Mahalo!

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
78. Just spoke with a buddy in Maui.
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 05:32 PM
Aug 2014

He said they had some rain but nothing awful. Glad my Hawaiian friends are good!

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