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kpete

(72,005 posts)
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 10:39 PM Aug 2014

Nonpartisan Study: Sovereign Citizens Pose Bigger Threat To USA Than Islamic Extremists

Nonpartisan Study: Sovereign Citizens Pose Bigger Threat To USA Than Islamic Extremists
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Cliven Bundy, I'm calling you out.

A study conducted by the nonpartisan agency the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism has found in a study reported to the US Department of Homeland Security that sovereign citizens, people who claim that they are only answerable to their own interpretation of the law and a pseudo-nation of in and of themselves (and surprise, surprise often think with prejudices that belong in the 1800's), pose a more dangerous threat to our national security than Islamic extremists. 4500 officers from 2100 federal, state, local, and tribal agencies agree:

The 2013-14 study results show that law enforcement’s top concern is sovereign citizens. Although Islamic extremists remain a major concern for law enforcement, they are no longer their top concern. Approximately 39 percent of respondents agreed and 28 percent strongly agreed that Islamic extremists were a serious terrorist threat. In comparison, 52 percent of respondents agreed and 34 percent strongly agreed that sovereign citizens were a serious terrorist threat. This is interesting because sovereign citizens were ranked as the eighth highest group of concern among the 2006-07 sample.




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https://www.start.umd.edu/pubs/START_UnderstandingLawEnforcementIntelligenceProcesses_July2014.pdf
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/05/1319448/-Nonpartisan-Study-Sovereign-Citizens-Pose-Bigger-Threat-To-USA-Than-Islamic-Extremists
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Nonpartisan Study: Sovereign Citizens Pose Bigger Threat To USA Than Islamic Extremists (Original Post) kpete Aug 2014 OP
When the radical present themselves with weapons in the fashion at Bundy Ranch, they are terrorist. Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #1
Of Course RadicalGeek Aug 2014 #2
A threat from the left? Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #4
That seems like an odd assertion el_bryanto Aug 2014 #5
Bit of clarification RadicalGeek Aug 2014 #6
That's definitely true that they have been told that; but is it true? el_bryanto Aug 2014 #7
I don't think it ever was RadicalGeek Aug 2014 #8
No shit they are. TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #3

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. When the radical present themselves with weapons in the fashion at Bundy Ranch, they are terrorist.
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 11:25 PM
Aug 2014

I may not like all the rules and regulations but is this group just against the rules or have they slipped past sanity and into a world of terror. I understand Terry McVeigh was a portion, he was a terrorist plain and simple. We protect the citizens of the US but these are not law abiding and thinks the government is for something for them to terrorize. It is a shame, we have a wonderful nation and we have many freedoms we enjoy. I don't know what their problem may be but they are terrorist.

RadicalGeek

(344 posts)
2. Of Course
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 11:54 PM
Aug 2014

There's also that fact that for going on almost 100 years (at least) that the threat to America is from the left.

As Bundy, Nugent, Pratt, etc show, the real "Enemies of the state" may be on the right?

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
5. That seems like an odd assertion
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 08:41 AM
Aug 2014

Are you talking about an actual threat or a rhetorical threat. Certainly if you are talking about a rhetorical threat, than yes Republicans have since WW2 at least been very comfortable complaining that their political enemies were really traitors who were trying to destroy America.

If you are saying that the American left has been an actual threat, than I hope you have enjoyed your time at DU.

Bryant

RadicalGeek

(344 posts)
6. Bit of clarification
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 01:44 PM
Aug 2014

It would seem to be that the right has been a bit of both, especially recently.

What I think may be happening is that as the rhetoric of the American Right is being rejected, as their base ages and as youth grow up in more diverse and connected world, that they may see an uprising as their only option.

BUT most Americans over the decades have been told that the insurgents are on the left, not the right.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
7. That's definitely true that they have been told that; but is it true?
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 01:46 PM
Aug 2014

Or was it true when it was said?

Bryant

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