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me b zola

(19,053 posts)
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 03:58 AM Aug 2014

Comment: Money, fertility tourism and the new human trafficking




5 Aug 2014 - 2:30pm

Comment: Money, fertility tourism and the new human trafficking
The popularity of fertility tourism shows that the world can still devise unique ways to literally sell a woman’s body to the highest bidder.
By Amy Gray

~snip~
Fertility tourism is a growing global industry, bringing in over $400 million a year in India alone. For the right price, people can buy IVF treatments, donated eggs and sperm along with a surrogate mother. The clients are often white and rich. The suppliers pressed into service are often neither.

As always, the most powerful people will always be those with the most money but the question must be asked: what are they buying and is it ethical? By using money and vulnerability as a means to coerce women into exploitative service, fertility tourism is an abuse of power that reduces the trafficked from people into produce.

Based on the UN’s definition of human trafficking, fertility tourism often results in human trafficking by recruiting people by through coercion, twisting power and vulnerability and giving payments that result in physical exploitation.

According to Janbua, already a mother, the surrogacy fees promised were 350,000 baht (A$11,669) which far exceeded the 20,000 baht (A$666) she and her husband struggled to live off every month. Janbua entered into the agreement by the force of poverty, telling reporters “my husband agreed because we didn't have money to pay our debt". She also claims she has not been fully paid.

She’s not alone.

As an industry that relies on the labour of women, it doesn’t always treat them well. In India, women’s groups are campaigning against deceptive agents pressing young women into service and signing contracts they can’t read. Many surrogate mothers are separated from their families to live in quarantined hostels with other women while others go into seclusion fearing social shame. There are cases of women dying during childbirth. This is the reality hidden from the pristine white clinics and smiling hosts promoted on websites.

~more at link~
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/08/05/comment-money-fertility-tourism-and-new-human-trafficking


Goodness I wish I could post the entire article.
The final paragraph and the last sentence certainly speak loudly~but who will choose to hear?
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Comment: Money, fertility tourism and the new human trafficking (Original Post) me b zola Aug 2014 OP
This is a woman's reproductive rights issue. It is a human rights issue. me b zola Aug 2014 #1
Foreigners driving up prices in the US JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #2
Wow! There are serious ethical issues there. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #3
It has occurred to me JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #4
Very interesting. Thanks. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #5
One more thought that made me think JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #6
I wonder how many of our fellow liberals are taking part in this, blissfully unaware of what StevieM Aug 2014 #7

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
1. This is a woman's reproductive rights issue. It is a human rights issue.
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 04:13 AM
Aug 2014

...and the children grow up to be adults, and we have rights too.

JustAnotherGen

(31,834 posts)
2. Foreigners driving up prices in the US
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 05:31 AM
Aug 2014

$150 K due to the influx.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/06/us/foreign-couples-heading-to-america-for-surrogate-pregnancies.html?_r=0

Totally not worth it. I have to be very careful about what my husband and I call the four "legged" baby as I'm not sure who is flying by DU and I don't wish to offend people. But we should have a national law/regulation that forbids foreigners and agents in the mix of the US Fertility Industrial Complex.

Very few countries allow this. That said - California allows it but NY does not. My greatest fear is some unethical lab tech replacing one of my eggs with a "better" just to shut the process down. I could see one on these brokers/agents pulling a stunt like this. They prey on impoverished women - and devastated women.

There's a pretty healthy list at a forum I belong to of who the vultures are - who is ethical and who is not. I can't prevent a couple in Australia from going to India - but the couple from Portugal or France should be shut out of the US. Add to that - Federal regulations need to be put into play.


We understand we are all just numbers - AMH and sperm motility - we sign up for that. But brokers offering high prices for eggs? Wat if they steal one of my highly sought after perfect eggs and give it to some women in France because her genetic match is rare to come by in the US? What if it's some lab tech that sells it to a broker and that's the one egg that is going to stick?

Look at it from our side too Meb - we have "premium" genetic material - especially if you have my rare (in Europe) ethnic background. These brokers could very well be offering someone a lot of money for an egg that I took a lot of drugs and went through a lot of pain to produce for my husband and me.

We need Federal regulations now. I trust my doctor and my assigned nurse - I do not trust anyone I don't see in the back labs.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
3. Wow! There are serious ethical issues there.
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 05:48 AM
Aug 2014

It never occurred to me that a lab might steal eggs. I know a very brilliant woman who froze some of her eggs. Uh-oh. I need to talk to her about this.

JustAnotherGen

(31,834 posts)
4. It has occurred to me
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 06:00 AM
Aug 2014

Three miscarriages on my own.
One lead to a blocked tube.
Salpingectomy.
Ob- Gyn goes into do that - husband has to sign abortion papers because there was an ectopic.
One miscarriage two embryos transferred.

My AMH may be low - but the eggs we have cultivated are flawless.

Because I have A.S. and an ethical Doctor - he won't transfer more than two at a time. Too much stress on my body. My miscarriage last November was due to walking pneumonia, a MRSA infection, and an A.S. flare. Two embryos gone.

It's not the brilliance - its the ethnicity. There are three collegiate women in Louisiana offering my genetic mix up for between $25K and $40K.

I'm beginning to wonder if this woman who got the boot at my fertility forum a few weeks ago was one of these brokers? She was only there for a few weeks, knew my facility and Doctor and suggested that we "make our money back" by transferring our eggs to another facility after we have a child. I reported her to Admin as did a few other people. Her point was my appearance and genetic background being of high value to many women in France who descend from black Americans migrating there.

Getting that French, Celtic, black, Native, Germanic mix in France is extremely difficult. Funny - my husband is the one who brought this up a few weeks ago - but he's the one handing our facility his black card. He wants proof my eggs are destroyed when this is all said and done.

JustAnotherGen

(31,834 posts)
6. One more thought that made me think
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 08:01 AM
Aug 2014

In that scenario I provided - the one where I believe the person was up to no good . . .

Egg Donors should be no older than 30. The eggs we have on hand are culled from a 40 year old ovary and an 41 year old ovary. I now have a good reserve in my left ovary (the salpingectomy side) that we are going to pull more from - in hormone process right now.

What would the broker 'tell' the woman/couple looking to buy this egg? That should be alarming. It would be a lie from the get go.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
7. I wonder how many of our fellow liberals are taking part in this, blissfully unaware of what
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 12:35 AM
Aug 2014

is being done to the surrogate mothers. It is exploitation of the highest order, but sometimes people just don't want to know. So if our society validates it then they will take its moral legitimacy at face value.

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