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KamaAina

(78,249 posts) Wed Aug 6, 2014, 05:08 PM Aug 2014

Hagee: Pro-Choice, Pro-LGBT 'Counterfeit Christians' Are Nation's 'Greatest Problem'

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/hagee-pro-choice-pro-lgbt-counterfeit-christians-are-nations-greatest-problem

Televangelist John Hagee dedicated his Sunday sermon this week to asking if America can “survive until 2017,” walking through a number of issues that he feared would impede the country’s survival. The chief among these, he said, are “counterfeit Christians” who are pro-choice or support LGBT rights.

“You people who are running around calling yourselves Christians supporting abortion, you are not!” he thundered.

“Our greatest problem in this nation is counterfeit Christianity,” he explained later in the sermon, telling gay-affirming pastors, “Those of you who got on national television and endorsed homosexual lifestyle because the president did so, you are a counterfeit Christian, you are a moral coward, you are a hireling shepherd. Shame on you.”

Hagee also warned that the separation of church and state “will prove suicidal for America.”

How do you tell if a Christian is counterfeit? Run one of those iodine pens over her skin?

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Hagee: Pro-Choice, Pro-LGBT 'Counterfeit Christians' Are Nation's 'Greatest Problem' (Original Post) KamaAina Aug 2014 OP

Actually, the greatest problem in this country SomethingFishy Aug 2014 #1

I do believe that "Counterfeit Christians" are, indeed, the nation's greatest problem. Maedhros Aug 2014 #2

+1000 theHandpuppet Aug 2014 #4

I saw a bumper sticker yesterday that said, "I'm Christian and I vote" world wide wally Aug 2014 #3

Maybe he should crack open that Bible he uses as a prop... winter is coming Aug 2014 #5

There's a lot of problems in this country, John. tanyev Aug 2014 #6

He can say and think whatever he likes, he just shouldn't be tax exempt. mountain grammy Aug 2014 #7

"TAX the CHURCHES; hifiguy Aug 2014 #11

Hmm...that's funny Jamaal510 Aug 2014 #8

Apocalypse worshipping millionaire freaks like Hagee are this nation's biggest problem. Initech Aug 2014 #9

I repeat, from the Hagee welfare thread hifiguy Aug 2014 #10

Understand this about conservative Christians if you understand nothing else... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2014 #12

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)

1. Actually, the greatest problem in this country

Reply to KamaAina (Original post)

Wed Aug 6, 2014, 05:09 PM

Aug 2014

is that there are people ignorant enough to believe this tripe.

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)

2. I do believe that "Counterfeit Christians" are, indeed, the nation's greatest problem.

Reply to KamaAina (Original post)

Wed Aug 6, 2014, 05:11 PM

Aug 2014

However I disagree with his interpretation of what "Counterfeit Christian" means.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)

4. +1000

Reply to Maedhros (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 6, 2014, 05:37 PM

Aug 2014

world wide wally

(21,749 posts)

3. I saw a bumper sticker yesterday that said, "I'm Christian and I vote"

Reply to KamaAina (Original post)

Wed Aug 6, 2014, 05:36 PM

Aug 2014

So I wondered if that meant this person was against our wars of aggression, against the death penalty, for helping people get health care, against corporate greed and inequality, pro civil rights for all.....or just against abortion under any circumstances.

What do you think?

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)

5. Maybe he should crack open that Bible he uses as a prop...

Reply to KamaAina (Original post)

Wed Aug 6, 2014, 05:43 PM

Aug 2014

and learn what sort of people Jesus hung out with.

tanyev

(42,591 posts)

6. There's a lot of problems in this country, John.

Reply to KamaAina (Original post)

Wed Aug 6, 2014, 06:50 PM

Aug 2014

That's not one of them.

mountain grammy

(26,638 posts)

7. He can say and think whatever he likes, he just shouldn't be tax exempt.

Reply to KamaAina (Original post)

Wed Aug 6, 2014, 06:55 PM

Aug 2014

TAX THE CHURCH!

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)

11. "TAX the CHURCHES;

Reply to mountain grammy (Reply #7)

Wed Aug 6, 2014, 08:22 PM

Aug 2014

TAX the BUSINESSES OWNED by the CHURCHES." - Frank Zappa

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)

8. Hmm...that's funny

Reply to KamaAina (Original post)

Wed Aug 6, 2014, 08:18 PM

Aug 2014

because one could also argue that it is un-Christian to try to dictate the sex life of someone else, in addition to doing other things like railing against expanded health care, dodging taxes, race-baiting, supporting the death penalty, opposing stricter gun laws, and being quick to send young men and women to fight in dumb wars. But what do I know? I'm just a progressive "counterfeit" Christian!

Initech

(100,090 posts)

9. Apocalypse worshipping millionaire freaks like Hagee are this nation's biggest problem.

Reply to KamaAina (Original post)

Wed Aug 6, 2014, 08:20 PM

Aug 2014

Hey Hagee, Jesus would have hated you and your ilk!

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)

10. I repeat, from the Hagee welfare thread

Reply to KamaAina (Original post)

Wed Aug 6, 2014, 08:20 PM

Aug 2014

Someone should tear down this tower of turds and build a human being in the vacated space.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)

12. Understand this about conservative Christians if you understand nothing else...

Reply to KamaAina (Original post)

Wed Aug 6, 2014, 08:56 PM

Aug 2014

YOU are not a Christian unless they say you are. Unitarian Universalists? Not Christians. The same goes for any other "Christian" denomination that refuses to accept their ideology and their dogma. When they talk about what Christians believe, and you disagree with them, then you are not a Christian and (ergo) your beliefs are certainly not to be protected by something as silly as the first amendment. That only protects Christians, and that means NOT YOU.

They are a cult.

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