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applegrove

(118,793 posts)
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 09:13 PM Aug 2014

Charles Koch Hijacks Martin Luther King Jr. To Pitch His Vision For Low-Wage America

Charles Koch Hijacks Martin Luther King Jr. To Pitch His Vision For Low-Wage America

by Christina Wilkie at the Huffington Post

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/06/charles-koch-america_n_5655669.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

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But for Koch Industries, the company the Koch brothers inherited from their father and built into a global mega-energy conglomerate, those regulations are costly. Charles Koch complains about how "punitive permitting for large projects creates years of delay, increasing uncertainty and cost. Sometimes projects are canceled and jobs with them."

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This brings the reader to the third part of Koch's plan -- that American kids need to be more willing to toil in menial jobs. "The willingness to work, an essential for success, often has to be taught," Koch writes. He uses as an example that his father made him take dirty jobs at the family's company when he was younger. Of course, he was still a millionaire's son with a millionaire's son's future.

"Most Americans understand that taking a job and sticking with it, no matter how unpleasant or low-paying, is a vital step toward the American dream," he writes. That Koch chooses a word as innocuous as "unpleasant" to describe a bad job is telling. The realities of low-wage work are often far worse than "unpleasant."

Through Koch's personal lens, anything that stands between workers and the specter of imminent hunger, illness or homelessness "undermines people's will to work." This means supplemental nutrition programs, Medicaid and Medicare, the Earned Income Tax Credit and unemployment insurance. Koch believes these programs and others have "created a culture of dependency and hopelessness. This is most unfair to vulnerable citizens who suffer even as we say they are receiving 'benefits.'"




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Charles Koch Hijacks Martin Luther King Jr. To Pitch His Vision For Low-Wage America (Original Post) applegrove Aug 2014 OP
He seems to want lots of shitty, dangerous jobs out there. The lower the pay, and the more applegrove Aug 2014 #1
There's that. But he wants it seen as a virtue. immoderate Aug 2014 #2
Nothing wrong with hard work. Democrats do that too. In fact I bet applegrove Aug 2014 #4
He's a wealth addict. Initech Aug 2014 #6
FUCK YOU, Charles Koch. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #3
Why haven't they been arrested yet? Initech Aug 2014 #5
Precisely untrue quaker bill Aug 2014 #7
Celebrating the dignity of work, no matter how menial the job is a great thing aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #8
My grandmother used to tell the story of moving to a farmhouse applegrove Aug 2014 #9
And they need to be safe jobs with appropriate holidays and bathroom breaks. applegrove Aug 2014 #11
Such a deep thinker isn't he. lonestarnot Aug 2014 #10

applegrove

(118,793 posts)
1. He seems to want lots of shitty, dangerous jobs out there. The lower the pay, and the more
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 09:14 PM
Aug 2014

dismal the better.

applegrove

(118,793 posts)
4. Nothing wrong with hard work. Democrats do that too. In fact I bet
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 09:37 PM
Aug 2014

there are more democratic people who work harder, longer hours than there are Republicans. The 20th century was all about creating jobs that were not so dangerous, dismal and poorly paid in the West. Poor countries in the world are just beginning to regulate properly. Why does Koch want to undo needed regulation? So he can make another billion? Oh really? Does he need it? He must be sadistic or something.

Initech

(100,104 posts)
6. He's a wealth addict.
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 09:40 PM
Aug 2014

He should not wield this kind of power and authority, he should be seeking treatment for his money addiction.

Initech

(100,104 posts)
5. Why haven't they been arrested yet?
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 09:39 PM
Aug 2014

What they are doing is terrorism and downright treasonous. They should be behind bars.

quaker bill

(8,224 posts)
7. Precisely untrue
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 10:19 PM
Aug 2014

"Most Americans understand that taking a job and sticking with it, no matter how unpleasant or low-paying, is a vital step toward the American dream,"

If stated "Many Americans believe", then it would be closer to true. Unpleasant and low paying jobs are simply not a step toward the "American Dream". They are dead ends and intentionally so. The difference between them and a complete waste of time is that you get to eat more predictably. They are not, in any sense, a rung on the ladder that you step up from. They are an abusive waste of time from which if you are either lucky or privileged, you can escape. Any notions to the contrary are delusional.

I say this having worked my way through college doing such jobs for 12 years. No, not one of them helped me get through college, Pell grants did that. The jobs were necessary to have a roof over my head and regular meals, but overall took a 4 year process and made me stretch it to 12. I work for people younger than me because they graduated first.

This stuff is only suitable for fertilizing tomatoes.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
8. Celebrating the dignity of work, no matter how menial the job is a great thing
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 10:51 PM
Aug 2014

Toiling in menial jobs can develop character and self-pride. However, you have to make enough money in those jobs to eat, to live, to survive. When I was in grade school in the early 60s, a school chum's dad was the janitor and handiman. He took pride in his job and the fact he earned enough to rent a decent home, feed his family, all without his wife having to work. I don't know that janitors could do the same today and I don't think Mr. Koch has the faintest idea as to how hard it is to make ends meet for low income people in the present day, even with social programs to help them out.

applegrove

(118,793 posts)
9. My grandmother used to tell the story of moving to a farmhouse
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 10:55 PM
Aug 2014

when she was in her teens. She worked her *** off. Her father was very, very impressed with how hard she worked. He took her aside and complimented her. It meant the world to her because he was a hard rock miner. She remembered it 85 years later.

applegrove

(118,793 posts)
11. And they need to be safe jobs with appropriate holidays and bathroom breaks.
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 10:58 PM
Aug 2014

There is dignity in hard work. It feels good. But people should not have their rights taken away so some ***hole can make another billion. The regulations are there for a reason. What is the reason for the Koch brothers getting rid of regulation? So people can feel they are working hard? Because to take a lunch break when you are in a field would mean you are somehow demeaned? That seems to be the argument here.

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