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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTwice as Much Methane Escaping Arctic Seafloor
From this past November:
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Shallow waters
In their latest study, Shakova and her colleagues reported thousands of measurements of methane bubbles taken in summer and winter, between 2003 and 2012.
But the team also sampled seawater temperature and drilled into the ocean bottom, to see if the sediments are still frozen. Most of the survey was in water less than 100 feet (30 meters deep).
The shallow water is one reason so much methane escapes the Siberian shelf in the deeper ocean, as methane-eating microbes digest the gas before it reaches the surface, Shakova said. But in the Laptev Sea, "it takes the bubbles only seconds, or at least a couple of minutes, to escape from the water column," Shakova said.
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Massive burst
But other researchers think the permafrost warming started only recently. "This is the first time in 12,000 years the Arctic Ocean has warmed up 7 degrees in the summer, and that's entirely new because the sea ice hasn't been there to hold the temperatures down," said Peter Wadhams, head of the Polar Ocean Physics Group at the University of Cambridge in the U.K., who was not involved in the study. The summer ice melt season has lasted longer since 2005, giving the sun more time to warm the ocean. (10 Things You Need to Know About Arctic Sea Ice)
"If we do have a methane burst it's going to be catastrophic," Wadhams said. Earlier this year, Wadhams and colleagues in Britain calculated that a mega-methane release from the Siberian shelf could push global temperatures up by 1 degree Fahrenheit (0.6 degrees Celsius). The suggestion, published in the journal Nature, was widely debated by climate researchers. Climate change experts and international negotiators have said that keeping the rise in Earth's average temperature below 2 degrees Celsius (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit) is necessary to avoid catastrophic climate change.
Shakova said much more research is needed to understand the factors that control how much methane is released from the entire East Siberian Arctic Shelf, which covers 772,000 square miles (2 million square kilometers), or nearly one-fifth the size of the United States.
"Ten years ago we started from zero knowledge in this area," Shakova said. "This is the largest shelf in the world's oceans. That's why it's very challenging to understand the natural processes behind the methane emissions in this area."
http://m.livescience.com/41476-more-arctic-seafloor-methane-found.html
Shallow waters
In their latest study, Shakova and her colleagues reported thousands of measurements of methane bubbles taken in summer and winter, between 2003 and 2012.
But the team also sampled seawater temperature and drilled into the ocean bottom, to see if the sediments are still frozen. Most of the survey was in water less than 100 feet (30 meters deep).
The shallow water is one reason so much methane escapes the Siberian shelf in the deeper ocean, as methane-eating microbes digest the gas before it reaches the surface, Shakova said. But in the Laptev Sea, "it takes the bubbles only seconds, or at least a couple of minutes, to escape from the water column," Shakova said.
...
Massive burst
But other researchers think the permafrost warming started only recently. "This is the first time in 12,000 years the Arctic Ocean has warmed up 7 degrees in the summer, and that's entirely new because the sea ice hasn't been there to hold the temperatures down," said Peter Wadhams, head of the Polar Ocean Physics Group at the University of Cambridge in the U.K., who was not involved in the study. The summer ice melt season has lasted longer since 2005, giving the sun more time to warm the ocean. (10 Things You Need to Know About Arctic Sea Ice)
"If we do have a methane burst it's going to be catastrophic," Wadhams said. Earlier this year, Wadhams and colleagues in Britain calculated that a mega-methane release from the Siberian shelf could push global temperatures up by 1 degree Fahrenheit (0.6 degrees Celsius). The suggestion, published in the journal Nature, was widely debated by climate researchers. Climate change experts and international negotiators have said that keeping the rise in Earth's average temperature below 2 degrees Celsius (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit) is necessary to avoid catastrophic climate change.
Shakova said much more research is needed to understand the factors that control how much methane is released from the entire East Siberian Arctic Shelf, which covers 772,000 square miles (2 million square kilometers), or nearly one-fifth the size of the United States.
"Ten years ago we started from zero knowledge in this area," Shakova said. "This is the largest shelf in the world's oceans. That's why it's very challenging to understand the natural processes behind the methane emissions in this area."
http://m.livescience.com/41476-more-arctic-seafloor-methane-found.html
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Twice as Much Methane Escaping Arctic Seafloor (Original Post)
redqueen
Aug 2014
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redqueen
(115,103 posts)1. One self-kick. nt
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,505 posts)2. K & R nt
redqueen
(115,103 posts)3. Thanks.
Not such a popular topic. As usual.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)4. Back in the 70s I remember talk of finding ways to use methane as a fuel. Little did we know.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)5. rec!
Uncle Joe
(58,425 posts)6. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, redqueen.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)8. Thanks to you, too.
I feel the same way about you.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)7. And to top it off, we're already overdrawn on the global carbon budget
And we have been since about 1900, as far as I can tell.
The long-term climate sensitivity is apparently 7.8 degrees per doubling of CO2, not 3 degrees as per Charney. And the safe limit for surface warming is about 1 degree. The CO2 limit for 1 degree about 310 ppmv. Not 350 as per Bill McKibben, and definitely not 400 where we are now.
The reference is in this post:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/112773481
Been nice knowing you!