in foreign wars, I'm pretty sure it's not 'Let the sob's kill each other until there are none left'.

And, of course, the reality is that that wouldn't happen. What will more likely happen is that the most violent and hateful will probably win.

in this case, if we can prevent genocide against the Yabizi, I think we should. There don't seem to be any SOBs trying to kill the ISIS terrorists/militants--- they are doing the killing. And if we are not willing to send in the troops, then bombing is one way to stop them.

Although I keep hearing these self-proclaimed "experts" on TV saying that air power alone cannot stop them. I don't know, but I support the president on this, so far.
We'll see what else transpires. This is a short-term fix.

...and by "they" I must assume you are referring to the people of the Middle East.

So what about Europeans? Looks to me like "they been killing each other for centuries" too... so by your standard we should have stayed out of WWI and WWII also.

Now you may be right about all of it -- I just want to see if you're consistent in your views.

Well?

IS has not attacked the U.S.

...we were definitely not eager to enter either of those wars, that is true. And given the growth of our own MIC after WWII, one could argue that the end result of WWII for this country was not the wonderful, heroic victory of good over evil that we have all been fed; but rather, the beginning of our reign as a world power that has led to us spending our own blood and treasure in stupid international adventures such as Vietnam as the most obvious example, and becoming the military power that people love to hate, often with good reason. And as Ike pointed out, the more we spend on military hardware the less we have for food, infrastructure etc. right here at home.

However: the OP's remarks still don't make sense. As I said, I want to know if the OP would have been against WWI and WWII based on "they been killing each other for centuries", or if that only applies to "certain" people. IOW, are they consistent in their views, or not?

And there is no doubt one of the choices when we are not directly attacked is the ethnic background of the people. We had ancestral ties to the European nations in both world wars. But we are here now. How can we intervene in every war that is going on around the globe? We no economic or military resources to do that. I want our War budget cut by 1/2 or 2/3s. If that dream ever happens then we will not be able to intervene anyplace. That is the reason Europe does very little militarily. They just don't have the money for it any more.

...is that we were pretty much the only Allied country left standing after WWII -- the war was never fought on our territory so we did not have destroyed towns and infrastructure, and gearing up for the war had made us into a military and industrial powerhouse. The U.S. took up the mantle as the country who would handle the West's heavy lifting militarily.

I'm torn on this new action. I would prefer if at all possible to avoid military action. I certainly approve of the humanitarian air drops we are making. But this ISIS/ISIL/IS group really do seem like they are (a) a real threat to the area and (b) beyond barbaric. Now there are plenty of groups who are beyond barbaric around the world, and we've even supported some of them. But given the recent history of the area, I believe we continue to bear some responsibility for the outcome. So I won't condemn Obama's decision in this matter.

Our denial of the horrible events taking place and our refusal to act before being attacked was despicable, and to this day, I am ashamed for us.

Are we bombing this group because we feel guilty for how we left Iraq?
We are funding and arming the Israelis and contributing to a genocide over there, but we feel obliged to help out in Iraq that was destabilized due to bush's war?

"Let the sob's kill each other until there are none left."
This is a democratic discussion board, operative word being Democratic. Democrat don't think like this, or the ones I know sure don't anyway.


The dick and w and that whole cabal of misfit chickenhawk sobs is what created this mess and to some degree it is us who need to work towards correcting this. Not throw them to the wolves. IMO

The OP smacks of bigotry to me. Ugly post.

In that case, you can always justify ANYTHING... well just this one time, well normally I'd be against it but...

Wow.