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http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MID-01-120814.htmlGeneral William Tecumseh Sherman burned the city of Atlanta in 1864. He warned: "I fear the world will jump to the wrong conclusion that because I am in Atlanta the work is done. Far from it. We must kill three hundred thousand I have told you of so often, and the further they run the harder for us to get them." Add a zero to calibrate the problem in the Levant today. War in the Middle East is less a strategic than a demographic phenomenon, whose resolution will come with the exhaustion of the pool of potential fighters.
The Middle East has plunged into a new Thirty Years War, allows Richard Haass, the president of the Council of Foreign Relations. "It is a region wracked by religious struggle between competing
traditions of the faith. But the conflict is also between militants and moderates, fueled by neighboring rulers seeking to defend their interests and increase their influence. Conflicts take place within and between states; civil wars and proxy wars become impossible to distinguish. Governments often forfeit control to smaller groups - militias and the like - operating within and across borders. The loss of life is devastating, and millions are rendered homeless," he wrote on July 21.
Well and good: I predicted in 2006 that the George W Bush administration's blunder would provoke another Thirty Years War in the region, and repeated the diagnosis many times since. But I doubt that Mr Haass (or Walter Russell Mead, who cited the Haass article) has given sufficient thought to the implications.
Shivering Jemmy
(900 posts)Beyond the slightly sensible excerpt posted.
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(53,881 posts)BuchCo stupidly thought they could "liberate" Iraq but this centuries-long sect enmity extends through the whole region (Levant) and will have to play out before the region can even think of modernizing and joining the 21st century as far as women's rights, human rights and religious rights, etc.
The Sunnis dominated several of the countries for decades and treated the Shia badly, thus the pendulum swung hard the other way with the Shiite Maliki purging Sunnis from any power in his government, which contributed to the rise of ISIL/ISIS.
Pres. Obama has a huge dilemma in that we (BushCo) broke the country so he feels we have some obligation to try to fix it.
It's unfixable by outsiders though. We never should have gotten in but we did break it thus Obama's, and our dilemma.