Nassau County Long Island (New York) is nearing bankruptcy from all of the 150k+ salaries for their police and bloated retirement funds.

And it's amazing what they get paid.

that people in his position are advised to never do: he reached down to his waistband (to pull his pants up before starting to get into a compliant, prone position).

A clear case of mistaken identity and cops with an itchy trigger finger ended another young life.

What's one little senseless murder every now and then, for our brave heroes?

But the Supreme Court says Cops Never Ever make mistakes or lie or have prejudice or .....

and who cares about a citizen's constitutional rights anyway

It's the facts of the case that are wrong. Reality has a known anti-police bias.

The unarmed kid shoplifted a shirt few weeks back and was a danger to the community.

Rambo cops have got to be stopped, and the Pentagon needs to stay the hell out of policing!

you were taken from this world too young.

...for not following orders execution?

...for murder!! Of course, that might be difficult to do depending on the community.

They really should be charged with murder!

Carved walking sticks for a little money and wouldn't swat a fly.Birk can go rot...

The kid won't ever have PTSD flashbacks of the day the cops mistreated him.

The death of a young 20 year old (my grandson's age) shouldn't ever be joked about. I wish you'd remove that insensitive comment.

Rather then trying to hold them accountable for their actions.

Perfect solution.

gallows humor is on par with the gallows. it is disrespectful. respect is also in the dictionary - along with anti-social behavior.

Don't ever go to an Irish wake.

is it ever possible for them to "pursue happiness" ever again? How about multiple times of mistreatments by cops? How about including mistreatment at the hands of every significant authority figure? Doctors, educators, cops, etc. Perhaps the key is found in the word "pursue". Sure, you may "pursue" happiness so long as you enjoy the beatings we keep giving you?

I'm sorry you found my comment insensitive, but the point is: is a life of misery preferable to death?

It's one thing to make an insensitive and badly timed joke, but you are making it worse by trying to explain it and taking your own bad joke as a serious commentary on life.

Misery is part of life. Life has no guarantees. It's ups and downs. You really think when something bad happens to someone they lose the ability to "pursue happiness"? If you really feel that hopeless about life I sincerely hope you are talking to someone professional about it. That's not a jab, it's sincere.

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The Declaration of Independence states we have an inalienable right to pursue happiness. I did not write the DofI, any more than you or anyone else alive today. This is about a system that appears designed to systematically remove happiness through many routes, police tyranny merely being one highly visible route, perhaps the only more visible one is war and military action. It is not my system, any more than it is yours, though a democratic argument could be made that it is all of our systems, that argument though falls on the facts that it is really a system of the 1%, the wealthy elites, the folks with the money hiring legislators. When viewed in that perspective, your comment that "misery is part of life" makes more sense, but my basic question has gone unanswered, even by you. Is a life of misery preferable to death?

So who are you to decide what quality of life the deceased may have had? Just because you deem it miserable, how do you know it would have been so?

Thus the implication is "another side" or more than one: A possibility, not a certainty. Thus, your statement, "Just because you deem it miserable" is a falsehood.

on a public message board on the internet.

You clearly asked "is a life of misery preferable to death"? You posited that the life would have been miserable, not I. I asked in response, who are you to decide that life would have been full of misery?

If you don't want to continue, that's fine, just stop. But don't try to turn this into something it is not.

The first sentence is the context for everything that follows, and your most recent quote is of *my question,* and was not a definitive statement. This is not a new question, philosophers have been asking this since time immemorial. It has often been asked in the context of euthanasia: the majority view is that life is priceless, but the majority view is not the only view. Almost any impartial look at humans history of warfare shows anything but respect for life and minority views. This seems to set up a collective hypocrisy.

experiencing, you presumed that the victim would have suffered and been miserable.

Besides, your initial post said "look on the bright side" which is inferring that he's better off dead. You were not pondering any philosophical questions at that point. You are trying to change things now that you have been called on it.

And now you are equating being killed by a cop for no reason to voluntary euthanasia?

Like I said you are digging yourself deeper into your hole.

It has often been pointed out that life itself is suffering, you yourself pointed out, "Misery is part of life." Thus, the document on euthanasia is merely one of degree, of taking an argument to its logical extreme. You say it cannot be equated, but earlier you did equate it.

Bye.

You keep trying to sound logical but you are not actually applying logic in your posts. You are reaching conclusions and inferences that are simply not there. And now you are trying to accuse me yet again of something which I did not do.

And now you are being purposely obtuse.

I see you really are just playing word games in an attempt to justify your initial post. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. I will do that no longer.

My observation is cold and philosophical. Two completely different motives.

Was your joke ill-advised? Yes. Do people need to get over the gallows humor? Yes.

His late 20s son is totally deaf and cannot speak or lip read, and can only communicate through sign language or writing. The friend expressed to me that he is afraid that some cop will yell at his son for some reason, see that he doesn't comply and blow him away as a threat.

Given events like above, I see his concern.

He got a call that an officer needed assistance after arriving another policeman stated that the driver wrote a a note saying "I am Deaf" they did not believe him. So my son signs "You Deaf" followed by rapid animated signs by the driver. I was a teacher of the Deaf for 17 years about the only sign my son understands is a few phrases but he has an emergency sign language app on his phone. It turned out three people in the car driver included (all deaf) had outstanding warrants. Afterwards the three police at the scene downloaded the emergency sign app. The discussion after the arrests when someone says they are deaf and writing a note take them seriously.

of people to sue for being assholes. I don't give a shit that it was "factual".

to take classes in how to behave like a professional criminal. That way they will learn how to keep from getting shot.

This is what I have learned just by observation:

1) You are a suspect.

2) You are the enemy.

3) You frighten the Police.

Wtf is going on

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terrorist organization? You decide but if you don't decide on at least one then odds are you are supporting these incidents be it passively or actively.

That's what it looks like to me anyway.

Let them reap the whirlwind they have sown.

Unfortunately, any random acts of revenge against individual cops will be counterproductive. Trotsky, Lenin and the early Bolsheviks fought this battle against the anarchist contingent over a century ago.

The rage needs to be directed against capitalism and focused on getting rid of the fundamental cause of these murders, i.e., the system itself.

Individual heroics and rage against injustice make people feel like they've done some good, but usually they haven't.

I have had it with these trigger happy morons...if you are so fucking scared, DO NOT BECOME A POLICE OFFICER.
Punk mother fuckers with badges and guns and no goddamn brains.

There ought to be a law that says any officer carrying a weapon must first have 2 years of UNARMED patrols under their belt to teach them how to diffuse situations WITHOUT THE OPTION OF VIOLENT AND LETHAL FORCE.

Learn you craft you pieces of shit.
Veteran police? WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU AT? WHY ARE YOU NOT ORGANIZING PROTESTS OF THESE ROUGE TRIGGER HAPPY MADMEN?

This whole thing across the country is disturbing and far more important than anything else going on right now...our rights are being trampled by out of control military police. THAT is a coup d'etat.

A witness said that one cop yelled "get your hands up!" while the other simultaneously yelled, "get on your knees!" and Dillon got confused and was shot.