He would make toast of Todd the Toad.

this weekend and found him very interesting.

And there are many more like him.

legitimate here while real journalists like Greenwald, are attacked by a few. Show me one real journalist that is a regular on the Corporate Media.

Greenwald showing up Gregory for the fool he always was. Maybe he was just a tool for the Repubs like McCain/Graham and a welcome hand for Cheney and Bibi...but, he was also a fool for them. And why it took so long for him to go with the poor ratings he had is hard to understand. Particularly, when we've seen so many good hosts with high ratings be let go or urged to go out the door: Donahue, Olbermann, Uyger (MSNBC)and others on CNN, etc. that I can't remember the names of but were popular here on DU and with Dems.

The entire media has been co opted by the someone® that exclusively serves the interests of the corporations, MIC and Neo-Cons. This nation is so fuc**d.

I believe it is Chuck Todd, will be no better than Gregory. They need to put people who actually care about the truth like Greenwald on the MSM or their ratings will never improve, no matter how many times they swiitch hosts.

If the rest of the press had carried half as much water as Greenwald, these two would have long ago been in front of a Grand Jury.



Here's what Greenwald wrote on the subject of NSA abuse by them, when the story broke in 2007. In his story, Greenwald raised questions about the Comey visit to Ashcroft that have still to be answered -- six long warmongering profiteering years later:

I appreciate Greenwald's new 'Intercept' site.

David Gregory is a cowardly corporate mouthpiece who poses intellectuality. I can't stand to watch him, no matter who the guest.

Just throwing in here...your linked post is a quality reminder of what's easily forgotten after seven years. Thanks.

been our Press, every one of them should have been doing what he was trying to do. Instead they were silent, and it was left to a few actual journalists, none of whom can get a job anymore on the Corporate Media in case they might do some actual reporting.

And this was BEFORE SNowden, and then people wonder why a Whistle Blower who has provided a few of those answers would go to Greenwald rather than our so-called news media.

And when he was doing this kind of reporting, I don't recall a single person on any Dem forum I was on criticizing him the way we see a few doing today. In fact it was people turned to for that exact kind of questioning.

I remember Comey, I remember the day he resigned. Did n't know about what had happened of course, but I do remember being struck by something he said and wondered what he meant. He had tears in his eyes when he said that he wanted to thank all those who had worked with him, and then said, 'not all of you are still here, but you know who you are'. Something like that. And I thought he was sending a message but of course had no idea what it might be.

Thanks Octafish. Greenwald has been RIGHT about all of this, and I am extremely suspicious of those who refuse to address what he says but like Gregory, attempt to discredit him. THAT is not possible, he would have to have LIED for that to happen, which we all know, he did not.

But I have never liked him. Waste of air time if you ask me. Now it will be worse as he'll be misusing air time.

Wake up, people!

Greenwald expressed it perfectly.

both are horrible. It would be hard to chose wich is worse.

Greenwald with an actual CONTRACT is because he publishes facts.

Btw, can you point out anything Greenwald has published that is false? Do you disagree with him about Cheney/Bush, about the Corrupt Banking system about Torture etc? I'm asking because these are the topics he exposes the truth about.

Gregory otoh, wouldn't dare take on the torturers and the banks etc.

And, who would YOU recommend as a good journalist other than Moyers eg. who generally agrees with Greenwald.

...and the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence and all that makes us free.

OTOH, some who consider themselves really smart and serious people think that's outdated and government has a role in censoring dangerous idea, like conspiracy theories and whatever doesn't advance the interests of Wall Street and War Inc. My 2-cents:

Glenn Greenwald vs. Cass Sunstein -- Battle Royal, in their own words!

The vast majority of NBC's staff are corporate whores.

Who in their right mind thought that by replacing gregory with todd that things will improve? Isn't it just one smarmy person being replaced by another smarmy person???

The terms 'neo-conservative' and 'neo-liberal' are bandied about fairly often to describe a politician but it's rare for any journalist of commentator refer to anything as straussian or gives credit Leo Strauss. If people knew what it was that these neo-conservatives believed in, neo-conservatives be reject as dangerous lunatics and imperialist, which they are.

Just a few points about neo-conservatives worth knowing. They believe in a ruling class, themselves, and you ain't part of that class. They believe in preemptive war. They also believe in 'noble lies' which Trainor refers to in this video. Noble lies are untruths told to the governed, you, by the ruling class, them, to encourage to governed to support a neo-conservative agenda. Let's say they want to invade a country to control some vital natural resource. That's illegal, you can't do that, that's just armed robbery. So they come up with a 'noble lie'. The country they want to invade is amassing weapons of mass of mass destruction and will soon attack us. Oh My! So we must attack them first. Mission accomplished.

Dragging neo-conservatism out into the light of day will go a long way towards killing off these vampires. The idea that we are an inferior class and should rightfully be manipulate by a ruling class might not sit well with the American people.

One more point. When you have a group who see themselves as the ruling class, who accepts as a matter of principle, that they have the right to lie to the public for the benefit of the country, which as it turns out will always increase their power and wealth, once you accept that lying to the public is right and proper, why tell the truth about anything ever? Why not just create your own reality made up out of whole clothe? Well, that's where we are today. We live in a world where the ruling class, in both politics and media (David Gregory), lie about everything. And here's one of the men we have to thank for how we got here. Leo Strauss

Personally I'd love nothing more than a chance to interview Greenwald live -- I could expose him as a fraud in sixty fucking seconds...

everything, is it that you disagree with?

Gregory never addresses those topics other than to try to defend them as he tried here with Greenwald.

Btw, I believe the question was answered by the public, Greenwald is an excellent journalist, one of the best we have.

You've read them countless times, and I've grown weary of repeating them so I won't type them again...If your memory is hazy, do a search

some such nonsense.

I'm talking about his WORK, his exposure of corruption within our government, starting with the lies that led us into war by Cheney/ Bush, that after all is what drew the attention of the Left, his excellent pulling apart of the lies they were telling. And his criticism of their violations of the Civil Rights of both Americans and of the people they TORTURED.

And his exposure of the lies of the Big Banks that led to the Global Economic collapse and especially to Bush's bailing out of those corrupt institutions.

He has continued to be consistent on those issues.

So is it that you had no problem with all these issues when Bush was in the WH and are being consistent NOW, or have you changed your mind about those issues since then?

Greenwald has not changed his positions on these issues. So either you have or you disagreed with him in 2005, 06, 07, 08. When did you change your position, IF that is the case, on these issues?

journalist, Gregory is a tool of the Corporate Media. It didn't work out so well when he attempted to discredit Greenwald which he learned from the huge backlash he received.

What would you ask Greenwald if you had a chance to interview btw?

And you CAN go to his blog, or go to one of the talks he gives where you can ask him anything you want. He doesn't hide from the public, doesn't have any reason to as he can and has always been able to back up his work, unlike most in the Corporate Media.

He's always thought himself better than those he endlessly criticizes, when in reality he's just the same as them...

GG is still the same type of shit, only with a different taste and fancy packaging...

are upstanding citizens. He WAS better than the corrupt Banks and the NSA spies he routinely criticized throughout the Bush Administration. Unless you support Bush's Banker buddies and HIS NSA which has not changed either in personnel of criminal spying on the American people.

And WHO 'owns' Greenwald? He now gets paid for his work, which surely you are not suggesting means 'being owned'. IF that is the case we are all 'owned'.

But he was NOT paid by anyone for a long time. He was a BLOGGER who posted his work on websites like Daily Kos like every other blogger who posted there.

I first saw his work THERE, he did stand out among the others, because of the quality of his work. But he was no different from anyone else who posted their work on DK at that time.

Are you suggesting that writers should NOT be paid for their work?

Should politicians NOT be paid also? Who 'owns' our elected officials then?

And you didn't answer my question. You said you would love the opportunity to interview Greenwald.

What you ask him? He would answer, as anyone who knows him can tell you, see all the Right Wingers who used to flock to his blog with what they thought were 'slam dunk' attacks on him. He responded to them on a daily basis, and generally made minced meat out of them. As he did with Gregory.

So again, what you ask him? I might be able to help answer since he has addressed nearly every 'question' raised by his critics.

You have to wonder what the point was of NBC's hiring a psychologist to figure out why viewers did not like Gregory. If it gets to the point at which that has to be done, the ball game is over anyway. And, if anything. Toad is even less personable than Gregory.

The show is too bland, too scripted and allows views only within a narrow band. IOW, it's become a real snoozer.

Here's a clue: Get a host with some charisma and allow more diversity of viewpoints on the show. Why is that even hard for NBC to grasp?

Todd too. MTP is dead to me.

Rachel Maddow, for one, is far better than either of these two ever would be.

point. He has consistently, for the past nine years reported on the crimes committed by the Bush gang and the Big Banks, and on the torturers, and on the NSA Spying going back to the Bush era. Odd too how no one on Dem forums was attempting to smear him back then.

So what in his reporting over the past decade do you object to?