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Personally, I don't understand how the New Black Panther Party can get away with issuing a bounty on someone. It seems illegal to me, but I'm no expert. Maybe some action will be taken at some point, who knows.
But to ascribe the decision to Holder's RACE, that is simply racism, and the Zimmerman family is looking more and more like a family that doesn't care for black people.
The heated rhetoric forced one Zimmerman family member to lash out in a letter obtained by Daily Caller written to Attorney General Eric Holder. After citing the U.S. Department of Justice's published definition of a "hate crime," the Zimmerman family member wrote that there is "no other explanation for Holder's failure to authorize arrests of New Black Panther Party members other than the fact that Holder himself is black."
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)Because if it is, I want to see the letter. lol
Bluerthanblue
(13,669 posts)is stupid. And I also agree that their citing AG Holder's race as a reason that no arrests have been made exposes more of who the Zimmerman's really are.
It's also interesting that they claim the 'bounty' forced George into hiding, since he went into hiding before any bounty was announced.
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)Bluerthanblue
(13,669 posts)that I wouldn't be too surprised if that is true.
RZM
(8,556 posts)That's a population about the size of Argentina and twice the size of Romania. A population that large is more than capable of producing its share of wacky racist assholes. Similar types of groups exist among far smaller populations.
Where the right comes in is that they love calling attention to the NBP, because their idiocy plays into RW narratives. The group itself is tiny.
It's not uncommon for small groups of idiots to get lots of coverage for being stupid. Look at Terry Jones and the Westboro Baptists. If you combined all of the followers of both you probably couldn't fill a conference room. Yet they are pretty much household names.
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)No right wing "journalists" just happen to show up at obscure polling places to document them and those stories don't wind up in Congressional investigations like the NBP story about voter intimidation which grew out of exactly zero voter complaints. Too much "coincidence", imo.
I agree that idiots are not always right wing plants, lol, but these idiots have been extremely lucky for the breitbartia.
RZM
(8,556 posts)To put the NBP front and center and get people to pay attention to them.
The NBP are basically publicity hounds. They insert themselves into high profile cases (Duke Lacrosse, Joe Horn, George Zimmerman) where they know there will be a lot of reporters and cameras. Then they strut their stuff in front of them all hoping for some coverage. And RW outlets are all too happy to give it them.
That's what's going on here, IMO. More coverage of the NBP works out perfectly for both sides.
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)RZM
(8,556 posts)Both sides are using one another. It's symbiosis, yo
The NBPP has absolutely no support in the black community. A nuisance.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Doesnt he have his armed neo nazi friends as bodyguards?
SteveABG
(134 posts)Arrest the Black Panthers for offering a bounty to kill someone, arrest George for actually killing someone.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)The NBPP's "bounty" offer was NOT to kill zimmerman; but rather, specifically indicated the "locate and capture of" zimmerman.
While I'm certain that they would not have lost any sleep had zimmerman been injured in an attempt to avoid capture ... that was not their call.
Mind you, I still oppose vigilante "justice", but let the record be straight on what the NBPP called for.
Hugabear
(10,340 posts)Of course, the right-wing media would like us to think that the NBP's had issued a "dead or alive" reward. They've had it in for the NBP for several years now, trying to portray them as some kind of terrorist organization.
Some of their rhetoric may be a little rough - but given what the black community in this country has been through over the centuries, it's rather hard to blame them for being overly frustrated with what they see as lack of progress.
Meanwhile, they are not the ones running around blowing up clinics, threatening government officials, and shooting unarmed teenagers.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Meanwhile, they are not the ones running around blowing up clinics, threatening government officials, and shooting unarmed teenagers.
But they DID stand at the entrance of a public housing complex that boasts a 99% African-American residency, across the street from a polling booth, manned by 100% African-American poll workers, in a precinct, boasting a 99% African-American residency with a stick and shouting anti-white rhetoric.
That has to account for SOMETHING! No?
s/o
Hugabear
(10,340 posts)With their uniforms and stern faces, they look terrifying - that is, if you're a racist right-winger who already thinks that black people wearing hoodies are scary.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Igel
(35,350 posts)This accusation against Holder goes back to 2008 or 2009, when the New Black Panther Party was accused of placing "observers" at a voting station in, IIRC, Philadelphia. The claim was that they intimidated white voters in a way that would have been clearly impermissible if the skin melanin content of the voters and observers had been reversed.
The DOJ found that there wasn't any reason for concern, and some on the Right asserted this was because of race.
Same NBPP, same Holder, same DOJ. If the letter's authentic.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)It was the Bush DOJ that initiated the inquiry into the NBPP's Voter Intimidation. The Bush DOJ opted not to pursue criminal charges in the matter; however, the Obama DOJ (Holder) initiated and got civil sanctions against the "ring leader."
That little bit is something the right fails to mention.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,502 posts)Bluerthanblue
(13,669 posts)that disprove the meme that this administration is acting with prejudice.
Also, your point about the 'bounty' not being a 'dead body' one is important-
I believe the poster said :WANTED!!! For the murder of Trayvon Martin
ALIVE, not dead or harmed"
RZM
(8,556 posts)He's quietly accumulated a fair number of gaffes and made some decisions that have alienated a lot of people. Some have been over race, some not.
My main beef with him concerns the prosecution of medical marijuana cases, despite his argument that they are a 'low priority.'
There's also the Fast and Furious thing, in which he hasn't looked so good.
As for race, there's the NBP case, his 'my people' comment, as well his comment that hate crimes laws only apply to 'certain groups.' He probably didn't help himself with his 'nation of cowards' comment either.
None of these things are a particularly big deal individually, but if you add them all up, I don't think he's had a particularly successful tenure so far.
I think that dumping him has probably crossed the president's mind, but he knows that would be a bad move because it would make the president look weak and unsure of himself. The only potential career-ender for Holder here is Fast and Furious. If that gets out of control, and it probably won't, I wouldn't think Holder will last through Obama's second term.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,502 posts)RZM
(8,556 posts)But the voter suppression thing mentioned in the OP.
I'm well aware that Holder isn't entirely responsible for the fact that no charges were filed. I'm not saying he did anything wrong here either. I'm just saying that the failure to prosecute the NBP over the Philly polling place flap has, rightly or wrongly, diminished Holder in the eyes of segments of the public.
Not everything I mentioned about him my response is necessarily his fault or his responsibility, but that's how the game goes. He heads the DOJ, so he owns whatever the DOJ does or doesn't do. That's just the way public perception works.
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)And as I mentioned above, there were zero citizen complaints from that non-incident but somehow, HOLDER gets the blame. ETA: and I am no fan of Holder's.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)EFerrari
(163,986 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,502 posts)EFerrari
(163,986 posts)lolita
(11 posts)does Eric Holder care for BP? Does Obama? Who ordered Sherry Sherrod's axing, hmmm? Oh yeah. Tom Vil-SACK.
Sure....................
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)uponit7771
(90,359 posts)ellisonz
(27,711 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)one of those pesky things about it, like burning flags and other ahem... non pleasurable activities.
If that bounty was acted upon and somebody got hurt or killed then we talk accessory and a few other things. If nobody got hurt or killed we talk accessory to kidnaping.
As to the Zimmermans, yup, they are looking more and more like racially motivated.