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Boojatta

(12,231 posts)
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 12:43 PM Apr 2012

What if software companies ask for subsidies in exchange for relying less on H-1B for workers?

Farmers rely on both subsidies and cheap labor. At least people who work for software companies don't have a special minimum wage that is lower than the minimum wage for other industries. Agriculture has its own minimum wage.

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Boojatta

(12,231 posts)
6. That's an interesting question.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:23 AM
Apr 2012

I wonder what percentage of all subsidy money that has been received by farmers has been distributed in accordance with regulatory criteria for smallness and for ownership, control, or influence on farm management by members of a single family.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
5. How about we NOT bargain and we introduce MAJOR reductions in H1B quotas?
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:22 AM
Apr 2012

And how about we crack down on the farmers by forcing them to improve their uninsurably unsafe working conditions, and then raise the agricultural minimum wage?

We can also make things harder for these groups by offering big bounties for violators.

 

Boojatta

(12,231 posts)
7. In politics, there is always some amount of bargaining.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:27 AM
Apr 2012

You can introduce any policy that you like without any bargaining, but you will have to start small: it will be a policy for your own small business or so-called "intentional community."

Link:
Intentional Communities website
http://www.ic.org/

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
9. It's because you're picking the wrong starting position.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:35 AM
Apr 2012

Eliminate the H1-b visa program, and cut off all student visas at the end of this school year.

That's the right starting position. Now let's negotiate.

 

bigapple

(99 posts)
11. did you know that...
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:54 AM
Apr 2012

in many schools international students subsidize American students because they pay full fees?

If you cut off student visas, guess how much more taxpayers or American students have to pay for tuition...

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
13. I'd rather working americans pay high taxes, than unemployed ones paying low taxes.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:57 AM
Apr 2012

The educations provided by US taxpayers should be primarily put to use by their kids.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
10. Subsidies = give companies money.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:40 AM
Apr 2012

H1B workers = people who come here, pay income and Social Security taxes, buy houses, buy cars, hire plumbers and electricians, eat in restaurants, tip waiters, pay for haircuts, etc.

I would go with the H1B workers.

KatyMan

(4,209 posts)
14. Are you in a profession threatened by them?
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:59 AM
Apr 2012

I used to work for a company that decided that offshoring and H1-B was the way to go. Lots of good people lost their jobs.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
15. I have worked with several of them.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 12:00 PM
Apr 2012

Good, hardworking people. And I know some who went on to become US citizens.

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