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babylonsister

(171,102 posts)
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 05:30 PM Aug 2014

Without David Gregory or Chuck Todd GOP Talking Points Get Challenged On Meet The Press

By a woman!

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/08/24/david-gregory-chuck-todd-gop-talking-points-challenged-meet-press.html

Without David Gregory or Chuck Todd GOP Talking Points Get Challenged On Meet The Press
By: Jason Easley
Sunday, August, 24th, 2014, 1:46 pm



Chris Jansing was the fill in moderator on Meet The Press, and without David Gregory or Chuck Todd, Republican talking points about the threat of ISIS to America were strongly challenged.

Video @ link:

Transcript:

CHRIS JANSING: From your perspective, well, we’ve heard a ramping up of the rhetoric by the administration. How significant a threat is ISIS?

REP. MIKE ROGERS (R-MI): Oh, it’s a very real threat. You saw the very barbaric behavior. And one of the problems is it’s gone unabated for nearly two years, and that draws people from Britain to across Europe, even the United States, to go and join the fight. They see that as a winning ideology, a winning strategy, and they want to be a part of it. And that’s what makes it so dangerous. They are one plane ticket away from U.S. shores. And that’s why we’re so concerned about it.

CHRIS JANSING: But we’ve heard the Pentagon say that, right now, they are not in a position to launch an attack on the United States. Is there any credible intelligence that ISIS is either planning that or has the capability to do it.

REP. MIKE ROGERS: Well, I’m going to dispute that. So we know that, and the number 2,000 of Westerners with Western passports is low. Intelligence has a very different number and it’s much higher than that. And the very fight between Al Qaeda that allowed ISIS to separate from Al Qaeda in Syria was the fact that they wanted to conduct Western-style operations….

CHRIS JANSING: But aren’t we, Congressman, significantly safer than we were on 9/11 in terms of being able to keep those kinds of threats out of the United States?

REP. MIKE ROGERS: Well, we have a better system of trying to do it, but we’re just not configured. We, the United States intelligence services and Department of Defense and administrative policy is not configured in a way to continue a tempo that allows disruption. The reason ISIS is so successful is there was nothing deterring them for years. So they recruited, they financed, they trained. All of that was happening.

And so, yes, we might be okay if we continue the posture that we’re in from a defensive posture. But remember, they get new recruits every single day. And what’s dangerous, think of this: If that’s a British citizen, we believe it was, you have somebody that was watching and participating in the whole exercise of making that video. That individual goes back home and, is again, buys one plane ticket, they’re in the United States. We may or may not know who that individual is. That’s what’s so dangerous about this, and why we can’t let them continue unabated.

CHRIS JANSING: So what do we do about it? We’ve seen what the U.K. has done, for example. They’ve been revoking passports of U.K. citizens who have gone over to Syria to fight so they can’t come back West. Obviously the president is considering a whole range of options. We already have air strikes in Iraq; questions about whether there should be air strikes in Syria. Should there, for example, be more small teams of special ops on the ground to gather more intelligence? What do we do now?


Jansing asked Rep. Rogers (R-MI) is there is any credible intelligence to back up his claim that ISIS is a plane ticket away from attacking the United States, and he never answered the question. Chris Jansing’s questioning of Rogers was very logical. She didn’t let him get away with repeating his talking points unchallenged. In a moment that has been virtually unseen since Tim Russert died, she made him defend his claims.

This is the kind of questioning that viewers want to see on Meet The Press. Jansing challenged her guest with facts. Meet The Press doesn’t need a liberal or a conservative moderator. It needs someone who is prepared and committed to not accepting talking points as answers.

Unfortunately, Chuck “challenging Republican lies isn’t my job” Todd will be taking over the program. Viewers can expect a return to the endless repetition of talking points next month. For one week, it was nice to see a journalist on a Sunday show ask questions that weren’t based on talking points and follow up the answers with deeper questions.

Real journalism made a brief return to Meet The Press. Enjoy it now, because Chuck Todd is coming in September.
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Without David Gregory or Chuck Todd GOP Talking Points Get Challenged On Meet The Press (Original Post) babylonsister Aug 2014 OP
She was very good today. femmocrat Aug 2014 #1
Excellent Job heather blossom Aug 2014 #9
See liberalmike27 Aug 2014 #33
Let's Twitter Bomb MSNBC Rockyj Aug 2014 #40
Just curious... SkyDaddy7 Aug 2014 #35
So did I. She was very good. When the Toad takes over I will not be watching. olegramps Aug 2014 #36
I agree she was better than the men! NBC should keep her on wordpix Aug 2014 #37
Way to go, Chris! City Lights Aug 2014 #2
yeah! grasswire Aug 2014 #3
Challenging Republican lies is not the media's job? So say the media...... Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #4
Best show of MTP in years! FarPoint Aug 2014 #5
How very refreshing 4now Aug 2014 #6
She doesn't think that. blogslut Aug 2014 #7
Gregory was a bad host for meet the press Gothmog Aug 2014 #8
Transition jaxind Aug 2014 #10
The next time a Rethug says ... CaptainTruth Aug 2014 #11
YEAH ROGERS I AGREE IT IS BARBARIC TO CUT OFF ONE'S HEAD BUT drynberg Aug 2014 #12
Why don't they call this program what it really is? ... aggiesal Aug 2014 #13
agree completely n/t pleinair Aug 2014 #15
Welcome to DU aggiesal Aug 2014 #21
thanks, aggiesal pleinair Aug 2014 #28
More like "Fellate the Republicans." Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2014 #23
Otherwise known as ... aggiesal Aug 2014 #24
Lulz! Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2014 #26
Very well put! emsimon33 Aug 2014 #41
Chuck Todd is NO improvement pleinair Aug 2014 #14
Agree! ReRe Aug 2014 #30
thanks, ReRe pleinair Aug 2014 #31
Day or night El Shaman Aug 2014 #16
Follow The Money DallasNE Aug 2014 #17
But But But...how will we ever find things out now? SoCalDem Aug 2014 #18
My wishful thinking has me hoping they reneged on Chuckie's offer and are cui bono Aug 2014 #19
Chuck Turd as shill The Wizard Aug 2014 #20
Shocking! Chris Jansing is the one who said President Obama was from Kenya but Cha Aug 2014 #22
It is a rather shocking development. Major Hogwash Aug 2014 #25
We'd be a whole different country, Major.. and the corporations might Cha Aug 2014 #27
That's the country I want to live in, Sugar Bottom. Major Hogwash Aug 2014 #45
I always get excited about Voting, too.. Our primary here was August 9th and we had a big Cha Aug 2014 #46
I've said in an earlier thread BumRushDaShow Aug 2014 #29
It'll be back to being Military Trumps People in a blink. nt valerief Aug 2014 #32
I can't believe they think Chuck Todd will bring in viewers wheniwasincongress Aug 2014 #34
If I had known it was Chris Jansing PatSeg Aug 2014 #38
I've never understood the praise for Tim Russert Orrex Aug 2014 #39
I agree completely Orrex. Bohunk68 Aug 2014 #47
I stopped watching MTP years ago and have stopped watching NBC altogether emsimon33 Aug 2014 #42
I like her, don't know why she isn't on her own show any more. George II Aug 2014 #43
If MTP is going to survive Blue Idaho Aug 2014 #44

heather blossom

(174 posts)
9. Excellent Job
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 06:33 PM
Aug 2014

I have been watching her since she was on Channel 13 in Albany, NY. She would be the perfect host for Meet the Press. Do you think we will ever see that?

liberalmike27

(2,479 posts)
33. See
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 10:29 AM
Aug 2014

That's why she did not get the job!

She might have said "My God, what the heck have we been spending all that extra money on our 'second' Department of Defense, or Homeland Security for?" "Heck, if you can't defend us by scooping up and spying on every bit of information that is laid down out there, what good are you?" She might have just aid "Well, that is entirely speculation, directed at getting us to accelerate and enter into another expensive war, that we obviously can't afford."

Way more liberal ground could be had.

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
35. Just curious...
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 10:38 AM
Aug 2014

Are there ever any Democrats who can defend the administration's policy of "Lets not rush off to another fucking war unless we have no other recourse?"

Seriously, Obama's poll numbers really do rise & fall due in large part on how the Sunday talk shows do their coverage...Obama lost 5% points when all 3 networks had nothing but the architects of the 2003 Iraq war on talking about how bad Obama's decision to leave Iraq was when yes he campaigned on getting out of Iraq but that deal was done before he was ever elected but none of that was ever mentioned!!!

These Sunday talk shows, CBS included, are no better than FOX "News' if they are only going to present one side...Because Journalist in this country are like the cops in this country they have completely lost all sense of what their true job description is suppose to be...Instead they (Journalist not cops) do the easiest possible thing & pretend to act neutral even when they know one side is lying or is dead wrong.

OH Yeah, If the above was suppose to be an example of a journalist challenging right wing talking points then we really are FUCKED!! She let him run his mouth the entire 3 minute video clip...NO CHALLENGE AT ALL!! Seriously, WTF? What did I miss? Or are we simply comparing how the other host cheer on the GOP while she simply let him speak uninterrupted?

SAD.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
4. Challenging Republican lies is not the media's job? So say the media......
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 05:54 PM
Aug 2014

The free press is constitutionally protected and in return they were privileged to be the guardians of democracy....if they abandon their posts as watchmen then who is left as the guardians of the henhouse?

The wolves?

jaxind

(1,074 posts)
10. Transition
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 06:37 PM
Aug 2014

Having Gregory be replaced by Todd makes absolutely no sense! How can you go from smarmy to another smarmy?? Chris Jansing was great!

CaptainTruth

(6,610 posts)
11. The next time a Rethug says ...
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 06:48 PM
Aug 2014

... ISIS is "one plane ticket away from US shores" & therefore a threat to the US our response should be "So you're saying that the homeland security measures put in place by the Bush administration in the wake of 9/11 are inadequate & ineffective?"

drynberg

(1,648 posts)
12. YEAH ROGERS I AGREE IT IS BARBARIC TO CUT OFF ONE'S HEAD BUT
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 06:50 PM
Aug 2014

Are we not also barbaric in blowing up hundreds or thousands of children, elderly, civilian innocents by our drones? When we send in "air support" they ain't just on the sidelines cheering, they're blowing folks up and what do we expect these survivors to do, just thank God they are alive? They are gonna strike out at any westerner (especially American) they find. Now I ain't saying these folks are justified, it's just that it's foolish to think they won't strike out. Calling them barbarians might make the person saying it feel better, but does this help those who are captives?

aggiesal

(8,940 posts)
13. Why don't they call this program what it really is? ...
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 07:05 PM
Aug 2014
[Font color=red size=6]Meet The Republicans[/font]

DallasNE

(7,404 posts)
17. Follow The Money
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 07:42 PM
Aug 2014

ISIS is very well funded. You might say it is an operation carried out by a wing of the 1% so you find out where their funding is coming from and you shut that off, even if you have to go after Swiss bank accounts to do that.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
18. But But But...how will we ever find things out now?
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 08:06 PM
Aug 2014

Like:

What's your favorite soup?
How's that college team of yours doing?..(the one you graduated from 50 years ago)
Do you prefer blue or brown?

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
19. My wishful thinking has me hoping they reneged on Chuckie's offer and are
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 08:22 PM
Aug 2014

auditioning others for the job.

Or did they send him off to school to cram before he starts?

The Wizard

(12,552 posts)
20. Chuck Turd as shill
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 08:27 PM
Aug 2014

means MTP will continue to slide. NBC doesn't get the changing demographic. Their audience is, and will remain, the ever dwindling pool of angry bigots.

Cha

(297,824 posts)
22. Shocking! Chris Jansing is the one who said President Obama was from Kenya but
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 09:27 PM
Aug 2014

she later apologized and that it was his father who was from Kenya.

But, this is great.. thank you CJ for follow up questions and challenging gop talking points. ie propaganda.

thank you, babylonsistah~ Yeah September 7th

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
25. It is a rather shocking development.
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 05:01 AM
Aug 2014

Just imagine what would happen in this country if the mainstream media did this sort of thing all of the time!!!!

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
45. That's the country I want to live in, Sugar Bottom.
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 01:12 AM
Aug 2014

I can't wait this year until I get to vote!
But, November 4th is still 70 days away.

Soooo, I'm voting early . . by mail.

I am going to vote on the very same evening that I receive my ballot, and then I'm going to mail it in the next day!!!

Cha

(297,824 posts)
46. I always get excited about Voting, too.. Our primary here was August 9th and we had a big
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 01:36 AM
Aug 2014

storm but I was right there with my umbrella!

BumRushDaShow

(129,701 posts)
29. I've said in an earlier thread
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 07:25 AM
Aug 2014

that Chris should have been on the list to host instead of Schmuck Toad. I've always been impressed with her when she hosted her own morning show - a big breath of fresh air coming after the sewer of Scumborough and Toad.

wheniwasincongress

(1,307 posts)
34. I can't believe they think Chuck Todd will bring in viewers
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 10:32 AM
Aug 2014

He's not likeable or interesting. How long will it take before they ditch him if the ratings remain the same?

Chris Jansing would be a wonderful MTP host - she is smart, the first MTP female host, and her being attractive would certainly help her get the job.

PatSeg

(47,672 posts)
38. If I had known it was Chris Jansing
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 12:14 PM
Aug 2014

I might have actually watched the show. Haven't watched Meet the Press in years. Too bad NBC didn't think of someone like Jansing. There is a lot of talent over at MSNBC and they chose Chuck Todd. Evidently they don't want people to watch the show.

Orrex

(63,243 posts)
39. I've never understood the praise for Tim Russert
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 12:23 PM
Aug 2014

He was every bit the millionaire, beltway cheerleader as all the rest. Gregory and Todd are awful, but Russert is much better in retrospect than in reality IMO.


Props to Ms. Jansing though. Of course, this means she'll be off the air for the foreseeable future...

Bohunk68

(1,364 posts)
47. I agree completely Orrex.
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 06:38 AM
Aug 2014

I find it incredible that many posters look with nostalgia upon Timmeh Russert. He was no better than Gregory or Upchuck. IMHO. I stopped watching it after he practically fellated Cheney on air. BTW, her maiden name is Kapostasy, she is of Hungarian descent from Fairport Harbor, Ohio.

emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
42. I stopped watching MTP years ago and have stopped watching NBC altogether
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 04:05 PM
Aug 2014

MTP has been a propaganda venue for the Republicans since Tim Russert died and once NBC pulled one of its most highly watched shows (on a network which few people watched), "Harry's Law," because of the demographics of the viewers, I decided that, since I am not in their preferred demographic, they would not be on my watch list of TV.

The sooner NBC crashes and burns, the better!

Blue Idaho

(5,060 posts)
44. If MTP is going to survive
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 04:43 PM
Aug 2014

It's going to have to stop being a bullhorn for TeaPublican talking points. There is a reason all the Sunday talking heads programs are losing market share at an alarming rate - everyone has heard it all before. Trickle down economics, chicken hawk rhetoric, and now more than ever thinly veiled racism, sexism, ageism, and a profound contempt for the poor. The key demographic has switched off - not only to the chattering class on a Sunday morning but talk radio too. It's just groundhog's day for the hate speech crowd.

The real question is - do any of these programs actually advance the public's understanding of the complex decisions that face our elected representatives and so our Democracy? If not, they have utterly failed the promise that brought them to the public airwaves in the first place. If that's the case perhaps it's time they were all replaced with infomercials for vitamin supplements and walk-in tubs.

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