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Better Believe It

(18,630 posts)
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 09:35 PM Apr 2012

Big Trouble in Little Havana: The Perilous Politics of Ozzie Guillen



Big Trouble in Little Havana: The Perilous Politics of Ozzie Guillen
by Dave Zirin
April 9, 2012


Short of a hurricane or an armed taxpayer revolt, this had to have been Miami Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria’s worst nightmare. Loria was opening a new state-of-the-art, tax-funded stadium in Little Havana that will cost the city $2 billion over the next forty years. He also paid out several hundred million dollars in salary for free agents, making his new ballplayers the nation’s wealthiest public employees. This was the last, best, chance to sell baseball in South Florida. Loria desperately needed a hot start for his team and some sugary-sweet media coverage for his new ballpark. Then his new manager, Ozzie Guillen, decided to share his views about Cuba and Fidel Castro. Guillen tends to talk without a filter, and in an interview with Time magazine, he revealed that he happens to not believe that Castro is Satan incarnate. Saying that he “loved” Castro, Guillen explained, “I respect Fidel Castro. You know why? A lot of people have wanted to kill Fidel Castro for the last 60 years, but that son of a b—— is still here.”

The Miami Marlins immediately released a condemnation of Guillen, but that couldn’t stop a volcanic political explosion. Miami-Dade Mayor Carlos Gimenez called on the organization “to take decisive steps” against Guillen in the name of “freedom-loving people.” Miami-Dade County Commission Chairman Joe Martinez demanded Guillen’s resignation. Cuban-American State Senator and Hispanic caucus chair Rene Garcia—in record time!—sent an open letter published in the Miami Herald calling Guillen’s comments “appalling” and said he was “looking forward to further actions taken against him for his deplorable comments.” Garcia also stuck Loria in the ribs by including, “What I also consider disturbing is the fact that the Miami Marlins received tax dollars from this community, including Cuban-American exiles, to fund the construction of the new stadium.” Suffice it to say, many a sports commentator also want Guillen fired or suspended. In their frothy anger, they have a common demand with the Cuban hardline exile group Vigilia Mambisa. An organization that has never shied from street violence and intimidation, Vigilia Mambisa has called for protests in front of the stadium until the Miami Marlins manager is fired.

Let’s leave aside the rather glaring irony that the politicians, sports commentators and Cuban exiles want to show their love of freedom by taking Guillen’s job for the crime of exercising free speech. The fact is that when looking for political consistency and clarity, Ozzie Guillen is not the best place to start. The Venezuela-born Guillen’s comments on Castro are not very different from what he has always said about Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez. He has made comments very favorable about Chávez and very negative. He said, “Viva Chávez” after his Chicago White Sox won the 2005 World Series. He has also been one of Chávez’s most high-profile critics.

Trying to make sense of Guillen based on public utterances is a fool’s errand. As someone who knows people that talk to Guillen when the cameras are off, I will try to explain his actual politics on Venezuela and Cuba. Guillen is big on a collective Latin American pride and will not abide anti-immigrant and anti-Latino words or deeds. He has a great deal of respect for the way Castro and Chávez stand up to the United States. He opposes efforts by the United States to impose its will on these countries and wishes the rest of Latin America would show similar mettle. It’s not a question of the relative good or bad of Cuba’s internal politics. It’s a question of independence. He’s also as gung-ho for the United States as any manager in baseball, going as far as to fine players for not showing proper respect for the National Anthem, a practice I criticized in 2005. I know that people love portraying Ozzie Guillen as an out-there, crazy kind of guy, and that’s in part because he is an out-there crazy kind of guy. But what’s crazier? Guillen’s views on Cuba or the fact that an aging coterie of people who mourn for the strong hand of Fulgencio Batista control the political debate in South Florida?

Read the full article at:

http://www.thenation.com/blog/167303/big-trouble-little-havana-perilous-politics-ozzie-guillen
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Big Trouble in Little Havana: The Perilous Politics of Ozzie Guillen (Original Post) Better Believe It Apr 2012 OP
he is not very bright cindyperry2010 Apr 2012 #1
You mean he doesn't have a lot of formal education or is just stupid? Better Believe It Apr 2012 #4
My opinion mind you cindyperry2010 Apr 2012 #6
k&r Starry Messenger Apr 2012 #2
The "offended" routine is getting old flamingdem Apr 2012 #3
Yep from what I've seen, most Latinos in Florida......... socialist_n_TN Apr 2012 #5
This is new to me: how do Cubans in Miami benefit from the embargo? Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2012 #8
There is a lot of money to be made flamingdem Apr 2012 #11
The media here in Miami is treating this as if it were a life-changing event. Daniel537 Apr 2012 #7
Was Matthews bashing Ozzie Guillen to demonstrate his "patriotism"? Hope not but he does that Better Believe It Apr 2012 #9
And here I was hoping the Mas Canosa nuts XanaDUer Apr 2012 #10
Most of the time, Dave Zirin is an asshole RZM Apr 2012 #12
So David Zirin is an "asshole" because he opposed the right-wingnut Tebow? Better Believe It Apr 2012 #13
Yep, pretty much RZM Apr 2012 #14
 

Better Believe It

(18,630 posts)
4. You mean he doesn't have a lot of formal education or is just stupid?
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 10:18 PM
Apr 2012

I don't think he's stupid at all. He just isn't into politics that much.

flamingdem

(39,321 posts)
3. The "offended" routine is getting old
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 09:54 PM
Apr 2012

Many Cubans in Miami benefit from the embargo and we know the politicians are right wing crooks.

They moved their mafiaesque behavior to Miami and hold the city hostage to their hipocrisy.

I'm glad Guillen can show how narrow minded they are ... many suffer from this and it needs to end.

He's allowed to admire anyone he wants, even in Little Havana

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
5. Yep from what I've seen, most Latinos in Florida.........
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 10:19 PM
Apr 2012

are pretty RW. Anti communist to a fault and you're correct, they long for the days of Batista. Probably because he protected them from the people of Cuba.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)
8. This is new to me: how do Cubans in Miami benefit from the embargo?
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 10:46 PM
Apr 2012

Not challenging your point at all, I'm genuinely curious.
PM me if you'd rather not start a sub-thread.


flamingdem

(39,321 posts)
11. There is a lot of money to be made
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 11:35 PM
Apr 2012

by being a victim -- Arturo Sandoval with his 2 million dollar club in Miami Beach uses the anti-Cuban line to get support even though he was a communist and hung out with Fidel --- tons of businesses have grown up around the need of Cubans on the island and they exploit relatives with huge costs to carry things to Cuba ... and for example the flights between Florida and Havana are 600-1000 rt for a 90 mile ride.

So the old guard anti-Cubans who run things squeeze the newcomers, often people of color by the way, and don't allow any breathing room, and don't share any power.

But the worst abuse comes from supposed anti-communist outfits like Radio Marti, they beam in radio to Cuba that no one listens to and rake US taxpayers, and are often caught with hand in til, and the 50 million in USAID funds that go to pay the likes of Alan Gross, not Cuban but benefitting, and other crooks in Washington DC at "Freedom House" and the like to "foster democracy", everyone including Obama and especially Hillary are GUILTY of pandering to the thugs in Miami.

Here is a blog that deals with the subject of US taxpayer dollars and Cuba:

http://cubamoneyproject.org/

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
7. The media here in Miami is treating this as if it were a life-changing event.
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 10:21 PM
Apr 2012

Even Chris Matthews got into the act today. Talk about the biggest non-issue since, probably something that happened last week, lol.

 

Better Believe It

(18,630 posts)
9. Was Matthews bashing Ozzie Guillen to demonstrate his "patriotism"? Hope not but he does that
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 11:04 PM
Apr 2012

sort of thing.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
12. Most of the time, Dave Zirin is an asshole
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 11:42 PM
Apr 2012

Yes, I said it.

He honestly can't help himself. If there's a cause where there's a conceivable position that appears to stick it to whitey/the man, he's on it.

His Tebow coverage has been biased the point of absurdity, going back before the guy was even in the NFL.

 

Better Believe It

(18,630 posts)
13. So David Zirin is an "asshole" because he opposed the right-wingnut Tebow?
Tue Apr 10, 2012, 11:56 PM
Apr 2012

I really don't know what the hell your writing about because I've read and liked his columns challenging racism and big business.
 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
14. Yep, pretty much
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 12:03 AM
Apr 2012

Zirin has shit on Tebow since day one.

Once he started winning games, he acknowledged that his fourth quarters were great, but still managed to shit on him anyway.

Guess what? A player's personal beliefs shouldn't influence a sport's reporter's opinion of his performance. Zirin has shown many times that he isn't capable of that. It's patently obvious that Zirin desperately desires Tebow to fail and has only given him the most grudging of respect when he won games.

Like I said, he can't help himself.

OJ is a murdering asshole. But he still ran for 2,000 yards in a season. I have no problem separating his off the field conduct from his legendary performance on the field. Zirin simply isn't capable of that. That makes him a shitty sports reporter. Fuck him.

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