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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsthe double standard by police toward dogs has got to stop
The gist of Lexi's story is this. Her owner left her in the care of her grandfather who has mild dementia while she went to work her overnight shift. Her grandfather let Lexi out and forgot to bring her back in. Lexi was barking to come back in; the neighbors called the police. The police videocam exists of the cops talking about killing her on their way to the house because, in the words of once cop, "I don't do dogs." The grandfather forgot she was his granddaughter's dog at first; then remembered and started to bring her into the house. Before he could, the police shot her repeatedly. He demanded to know why they shot her. They then said what are we going to do now (since she wasn't dead) and discussed killing her with a shovel. They then got the noose around her neck and she obediently walked into the back of the animal control van with them. In the back of the van, they shot her several more times, and then left her to bleed to death. She never attacked. They were just a couple blocks from a veterinarian and humane society. There was a 2nd police car up the road and she could be seen on that car's video cam, which somehow disappeared (removing evidence of her so-called attack.
Police shoot dog 8 times after barking complaint
SAINT CLAIR SHORES, MI When a man with dementia accidentally left a dog outside all night, neighbors called police to silence the dogs barking. Police obliged by firing 8 rounds into the dog in its front yard.
Unfortunately her grandpas mild dementia caused his memory to be impaired. During the evening he let the dog into the yard to go to the bathroom, and forgot to let the dog back in.
Hours went by. The dog waited by the door, barking for its owners attention. Prestons grandfather failed to hear the barking or remember his mistake.
According to the police report, police officers opened fire when the dog charged at them. Eight rounds were fired into Lexie.
According to ABC-7 Action News, witnesses reported that as the dog cowered against the house, police kept shooting. If this is indeed true, it is hard to imagine how the excuse of fearing for their lives could have been at play at any point after the dog retreated or cowered next to the house.
http://www.policestateusa.com/2013/st-clair-shores-mi-dog-barking-complaint/
Lawsuit Against City, Police Claims Dog Was Shot 15 Times Over Several Hours
An attorney for Preston released a statement which includes the scenario that upon arrival and approach of the dog, police dash camera video obtained from a Freedom of Information Act request recorded an officer saying, The only thing Im going to do is shoot it. I do not like dogs. I dont do snares. I dont do dogs. Ill shoot the <expletive> thing and Im gonna shoot it anyway.
The suit also claims that it is unreasonable to show up for a barking dog complaint with an express premeditated intent to shoot her and then to repeatedly shoot her. When Lexie did not die, they apparently took her and shot her several more times.
http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/07/16/lawsuit-against-city-police-claims-dog-was-shot-15-times-over-several-hours/
Here is her facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/Justice4Lexie
Note that there are graphic images of her 15 bullet wounds at the facebook page.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)I'm really tired of people having to hijack dog threads for their own causes. You don't help your cause when you do this; you hurt it.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)I am horrified by all the incidents. Is that a problem?
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)on the other hand, I don't remember seeing a single post about police shooting dogs in any of the dozens of threads about Ferguson.
so yes, it is a problem. I see the same thing happen every time somebody posts a thread about animal charities. There is always somebody bitching in essence that every single cent that anybody ever gives to charity should go to the (human) charity of their beliefs.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)just sayin
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)One can can empathy for both and express the empathy for one in those discussions and empathy for the other in their discussions.
On the other hand, insisting that every thread be about the topic of your choosing is rather self-centered, narcissistic and just plain rude.
just sayin.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)WTF have our police depts. become
No accountability
Blatant cover ups
Horrendous and I mean Horrendous killings of beloved pets and family members on almost a daily basis. Well actually I'm sure it is a daily basis, we just don't hear about all of them.
And I have yet to hear even 1 news outlet so much as raise an eyebrow in wide eyed wonder at WTF is going on. And not to mention our AWOL FBI not investigating ANY of the most egregious cases
its sickening
Sorry if my gallows humor appeared off topic
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)and a second neighbor try to run my horses out into a busy street.
When it comes to killing people's pets, I have no sense of humor. They are my only family and my life.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)If humans acted more like canines, the world would be a much better and less violent place.
Any being that hates dogs is less than human in my eyes and is likely to have many antisocial traits.
narnian60
(3,510 posts)RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)I have no idea where that poster got that idea but it's complete nonsense.
When a person indicates they don't like animals, that is a HUGE warning flag for me.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)and killers often get their start torturning and killing animals.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Point is, the cops are kill-crazy, and they clearly value brown people about as little as they do animals. It's not a hijack, it's an addition.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,871 posts)And whoever invented the taser should be hanged.
You know, it's really awful. I do think people are starting to wake up to this stuff.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,871 posts)I don't understand what is going on. Police didn't used to shoot people's pets. Now I read about it happening all the time. And it's all awful.
When I know the police are in my neighborhood I put my dogs in their crates and cover them with a blanket. I don't want them anywhere near anything that's going on. They are dogs. They bark at strange stuff. That doesn't mean they would ever attack anyone.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)That is really upsetting. Time to take the toys away from the officers since they can't play correctly.
And yet, they are having funeral when one of their own police dogs gets killed. I guess even with dogs it is us against them mentality.
LarryNM
(493 posts)RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)meadowlark5
(2,795 posts)I have really been getting upset about how the police simply shoot a dog if it's barking. Of course a dog is going to bark. Of course a dog will be defensive. That's all they have to defend themselves. And then if the police are on their property, they will defend their home and family.
I've have been wondering why it is police responding to dog issues. Wasn't it back in the day animal control or we kids called "the dog catcher" handled all animal related complaints. I rarely if ever see one of those animal control trucks anywhere.
Because taxes keep getting cut and revenue to municipalities keeps dropping, the "dog catcher" position has now been eliminated and the role delegated to the police.
The police are being tasked with doing too many things they are not trained to do. They don't know how to handle the mentally ill so they just shoot them. They don't know how to handle a defensive dog so they just shoot it. Either fund local govts to handle these individual situation or fund training for the police so they know how to handle them and stop shooting people and animal unnecessarily.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,871 posts)They are usually the ones that respond.
meadowlark5
(2,795 posts)I am in suburbia outside of Denver and I never see an animal control truck. Though there must be some as there are animal shelters where stray dogs are taken. I suppose those could be people finding dogs and taking them to the shelter. But I would imagine some towns have them. But I really don't see much of an animal control presence where I live and areas I travel around to.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,871 posts)I don't know if animal control people can carry weapons other than dart guns. I think they would have to call the police in if the situation was dangerous enough to need a weapon.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)... at least in my mind.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)2 cops and an animal control officer.
SamKnause
(13,110 posts)They have earned my mistrust.
I worry about the people that police come in contact with.
I worry about the dogs that police come in contact with.
I worry about the dogs that the police work with.
I worry about the horses that the police work with.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)That was not what I read in the original story.
Unless this is about another dog named Lexi and in Michigan.
That is totally messed up.
I hope they do lawsuits.
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)to shoot a sickly groundhog that I thought might be rabid.
He got out of his car and said, "Looks fine to me. I'm not gonna shoot it," and then drove away.
It was an hour later when my neighbor came over to tell me that the groundhog had been killed, after he called the cops when he found it walking around in circles in his yard.
valerief
(53,235 posts)rickyhall
(4,889 posts)"Very American. Fire enough bullets and hope to hit the target." Allan Quatermain
ReRe
(10,597 posts)Thank you for this OP, magical thyme. If I was that lady, I'd be moving out of that neighborhood all together. I feel sorry for anyone who lives in a neighborhood of busy-bodies who like to call the cops all the time over nothing. I hope she wins out big, and that the neighbors butt out of her business.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)I would move as well. Either that or end up in jail for murdering the neighbor. She is laughing with the cop too. Hateful, vile, despicable piece of shit.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... that recording of the laughing neighbor in court.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)and after he's shot Lexi the first 4 times, saying "Die, dog, die."
It's all on tape. And the dept. says he did nothing wrong.
The independent necropsy indicated 8 bullets, with 15 wounds. She finally bled out.
PoutrageFatigue
(416 posts)I hope they get sued into the next century, dickless assholes....
secondvariety
(1,245 posts)non-homicidal cops left? Was there ever any?
There's a good chance the cops would have to put me down also if they did to my dog what they did to Lexie.
Boreal
(725 posts)and love animals so much. I've read hundreds of these hideous stories and I wish every fucking psycho cop who commits these atrocities would get his face and personal info plastered all over over the internet so the chips can fall where they may. Last year I read about one of these cases, in California, and the dog lived. Her person was appealing for help with vets bills so I called the vet and paid part of it. I felt the vet should have just written it off, but whatever.
Here's a site that tracks these fucking dog murderers:
http://dogmurders.wordpress.com/
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)David Jacquemain, who has the same name as one of the police officers who shot Lexie, was sued in another civil rights lawsuit that alleged that Jacquemain threatened to kill two men and used excessive force in beating them. Baum v. Jacquemain, United States District Court For The Eastern District Of Michigan 2-11-cv-13318-AC-MJH. That case settled.
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1153316
Boreal
(725 posts)that needs to go on a WANTED website where all of the perps are identified.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)their addresses are available on whitepages.com
On July 15, Olson filed a federal lawsuit against the city of St. Clair Shores, police officers David Jacquemain and Jeremy Moskwa, and animal control officer Tom Massey. The lawsuit alleges that in killing Lexie, the defendants violated Preston's Fourth Amendment rights and her civil rights.
According to Candgnews.com, the officers involved in the shooting have already been disciplined. Massey was reportedly suspended for a month without pay. One officer was counseled and the other had a letter of discipline entered into his file.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/23/lexie-dog-shooting_n_5614051.html
They waited 90 minutes before taking her to the vet that was just a couple blocks away. They deliberately killed her.
Boreal
(725 posts)they should all get what they dished out and society would be down three dirtbags.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)suggesting that they do the world a favor and eat their guns.
Seriously. You listen to the tape and want to vomit. After they shot her they discussed how to get rid of her. Should they choke her or do her in with a shovel. And then worry that it'll be all over facebook in a hour, so they drag her into the truck, shoot her 4 more times and wait 90 minutes before taking her 2 blocks to the vet.
Boreal
(725 posts)I really want to see these people who do this shit get the death penalty and I've always been anti death penalty. That's how much it makes me both despondent and furious.
rocktivity
(44,577 posts)Last edited Sat Aug 30, 2014, 09:10 PM - Edit history (1)
by someone who "failed to hear the barking or remember his mistake"? That's not "mild" dementia.
rocktivity
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)I think he had earplugs in.
He did remember his mistake. It just took him a few minutes.
rocktivity
(44,577 posts)Last edited Mon Sep 1, 2014, 06:05 PM - Edit history (1)
but I think it's time for his being left home alone to end:
On Edit:
At one point, Preston's grandfather can be heard saying he cannot remember if the dog was in his house. Later, he said he thinks the animal belongs to his granddaughter, at which time he agrees to allow the animal to come into the house. However, before Preston's grandfather could allow Lexie inside, the police officers shot at her four times, with three bullets making contact, according to police.
(link)
rocktivity
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)who couldn't be bothered to wake him up and get the dog inside for him.
I had a problem neighbor who was periodically leaving a dog tied outside alone, barking all night. I very nearly dognapped him to get him a better home. Then I found out his owner was actually a nice man who was periodically leaving his dog with the neighbors. The neighbors moved away, thank dawg. Or I may have gone through with it anyway. It was a sweet little hound.
I need new neighbors too. One of mine tried to chase my horses out into a busy street. He has a trespassing and harassment complaint on file with the police, although he doesn't know it. The other tried to lure my dogs in front of their car and run them down in my driveway. Their karma bit them hard in the butt a year later when their dog was off leash and ran into the road and was hit and killed by a cop. Thank dawg our police love dogs...
malaise
(269,178 posts)They're out of fugging control and not just in America.
Boreal
(725 posts)all buffed out and looking like wannabe mercenaries. I'm sure there are skinny and out of shape ones who get off on killing dogs, though, too. These creeps need to be removed from society, permanently.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)sympathy when cops get injured on the job.
SamKnause
(13,110 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1153316
Crunchy Frog
(26,646 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)The cops probably both will get a 2 week paid vacation "while there is an investigation" ..
Like when they murder citizens in cold blood. maybe they thought they'd get one of
those coveted paid vacations for shooting a dog??
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)the cop that did the shooting I think got a 4 week suspension. They thought that was appropriate punishment.
It also listed all 3 names -- the 2 cops and the animal control officer. Apparently after shooting her a few more times they left her to bleed out in the van for 90 minutes before taking her to the vet that was 2 blocks away.
I need to find that article again (I've been looking for a while this afternoon) because I plan to send them Christmas cards telling them exactly what I think of them. Yes, I was able to find their addresses in whitepages.com.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)It's a reward for committing cold blooded murder, while seeming to be doing "the responsible thing" by "relieving them of duty"
It's a disgusting shameful policy. They should be sitting in a cell for those 2-4 weeks, not vacationing in the Bahamas on the taxpayers dime.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)and posted the vile scums' names above.
See post #46. One of them got a sternly worded letter in his permanent file.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)I guess they only get PAID vacations when the victim is a human being. Dogs not so much.
thanks for checking into it.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)So I guess they figured it would all go away.
I hope she wins big against the whole lot of them. Really big.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)There are way to many Police with that horrible attitude displayed in the recording.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)Any heartless SOB do this to my dogs and I'm sorry I would come unglued!!!
These dogs are my family just as they are for many People.
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)that has fuck all to do with how officer canines are treated.
The biggest reason I could never become a police officer aside from the unwillingness to put my life on the line every time I go to work is this shit. Never in a million years would I respond to a call for help from a single one of the tiny minded cop haters here after spouting the kind of crazy posted here multiple times a day anymore.
Need help after the kind or horrifying garbage displayed by so many here? FUCK NO. Crash and burn... you bought it. But they can and do every single day and night over and over again year after year after year. And the sickest part about the shit spewed here every single day anymore is the same people slinging it KNOW they would and let that vileness just roll off their backs. Not me. No way would I be lifting a finger for anyone that only has the guts to spew the irrational hatred but doesn't to step up to the plate themselves and expects the very targets of such utterly mindless vilification to come and help when they call. That's also why the police wouldn't have me even if I wanted to do what they do or had the guts to. And not a single one of the crazy spewers of filth here have the guts either or they'd put their money where their big mouths are, sign up and show all those cops how they think it's done.
You made this thread of purely anecdotal ugly using a sad and moving funeral for a police dog posted by someone else that actually has humanity and sense to spew this bullshit and all because the overwhelming desire to vomit more irrational cop hate is just that fucked up and uncontrollable. Congratulations. You even inspired someone to actually say they wouldn't feel for any human cop that got killed in the line of duty. And you all think that's NORMAL while calling yourselves liberals/progressives/Democrats! That shit isn't even HUMAN, but there it sits unchallenged. Proud of that?
>>>CLICK<<<
liberalhistorian
(20,819 posts)crazy, out-of-control premeditated actions like the murder of this poor dog to be just fine and dandy, but any justified expressions of horror and outrage here to be "horrifying garbage"? Seriously? Boy, do you have your priorities so far out of whack it's unbelievable.
glinda
(14,807 posts)are meant to put holes in things....to kill things.
I am horribly sick and tired and damned angry at the cops shooting animals.
undeterred
(34,658 posts)damnedifIknow
(3,183 posts)Disgusting as usual.