Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 06:08 PM Aug 2014

What happened to the second victim in Ferguson..?

Since DU'er "Big Tree" left I don't see anything on DU about what's going on. I don't watch MSM for news...only International... and it seems Ferguson killing has dropped off the news. What about the second shooting that seemed almost as bad as Michael Brown?

Anyone have an update? Seems all about Obama's Suit, Ukraine and the usual DU Issues?

Where is the investigation, at this point, and what about the second victim? Has anyone stood up for him?

21 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
What happened to the second victim in Ferguson..? (Original Post) KoKo Aug 2014 OP
The woman had a bullet fall out of her head and into a paramedic's hands. Octafish Aug 2014 #1
I thought it was another black man hit at a Conveniece Store not a woman? KoKo Aug 2014 #3
No, that was 4 miles away in St. Louis. nt tblue37 Aug 2014 #14
Her name is Mya Aaten-White and I think she was at the protest today. Live and Learn Aug 2014 #2
Okay...thanks...I seem to be very confused about this thinking it was another male shot to death... KoKo Aug 2014 #4
There was another man besided Michael Brown who was shot during the demonstrations. He had jwirr Aug 2014 #10
But that was 4 miles away--St. Louis, not Ferguson, so saying "the other person shot in Ferguson" tblue37 Aug 2014 #15
Yes, the media did tell us that it was outside Ferguson. This whole thing is confusing without the jwirr Aug 2014 #16
I completely missed that story! betsuni Aug 2014 #9
Thanks for the Twitter Link...hopefully those interested can bookmark.. KoKo Aug 2014 #20
You're thinking of the fatal police shooting of Kajieme Powell in St. Louis pinboy3niner Aug 2014 #5
Yes...that's who it was...... Thanks...will read the link. n/t KoKo Aug 2014 #7
Police fired 12 shots at him.......and there's no other news? KoKo Aug 2014 #8
I believe the video shows them firing at him after he was down, when he was clearly not a rhett o rick Aug 2014 #17
Big Tree did an awesome job keeping "us" updated etherealtruth Aug 2014 #6
How this story just got set aside I don't understand either. logosoco Aug 2014 #11
The thing I can't get out of my head loyalsister Aug 2014 #13
People don't care I guess Koko. I was afraid that once the Media left Ferguson, this too would sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #12
The Live Streamers are still there. Live and Learn Aug 2014 #18
Yes, I saw that. But for the most part the media has moved on. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #19
Thanks, Sabrina 1...Just saw the lawsuit... KoKo Aug 2014 #21

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
1. The woman had a bullet fall out of her head and into a paramedic's hands.
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 06:34 PM
Aug 2014

Who turned around and put it into a police man's hands where it hasn't been seen since.

Wish bigtree were here to help.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
3. I thought it was another black man hit at a Conveniece Store not a woman?
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 07:45 PM
Aug 2014
As I said...I don't watch MSM so all my news about Ferguson came from DU and posters here. But, once the second man was shot there was a little and everything died.

I went back to Ukraine and then when "Big Tree" left I wondered what was going on. Then all the Ferguson News stopped DEAD.

After weeks it all was dead....

Now it's a Woman who was shot dead or just injured...

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
2. Her name is Mya Aaten-White and I think she was at the protest today.
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 06:44 PM
Aug 2014

You really have to search for info on Ferguson now and I find twitter to be the best source for current happenings there.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/ferguson?f=realtime

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
4. Okay...thanks...I seem to be very confused about this thinking it was another male shot to death...
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 07:52 PM
Aug 2014

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
10. There was another man besided Michael Brown who was shot during the demonstrations. He had
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 09:54 PM
Aug 2014

robbed a convenience store - taking to cans of pop which he sat on the sidewalk outside the store. He then waited with a small knife in his hand. When the police arrived he took a couple steps toward them until they opened fire on him despite the fact that he was not close to them. They used a lot of shots to kill him. It appeared to be suicide by police.

That is what I remember being said about his death.

I had not heard about any woman.

tblue37

(65,488 posts)
15. But that was 4 miles away--St. Louis, not Ferguson, so saying "the other person shot in Ferguson"
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 10:51 PM
Aug 2014

confuses everyone about whom the OP means.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
16. Yes, the media did tell us that it was outside Ferguson. This whole thing is confusing without the
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 11:49 PM
Aug 2014

eye witnesses.

betsuni

(25,634 posts)
9. I completely missed that story!
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 08:49 PM
Aug 2014

I'm shocked I haven't seen it around anywhere. Thank you for mentioning her name, going to read about it now.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
20. Thanks for the Twitter Link...hopefully those interested can bookmark..
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 10:48 AM
Aug 2014

to keep up with any further incidents or investigations.


KoKo

(84,711 posts)
8. Police fired 12 shots at him.......and there's no other news?
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 08:49 PM
Aug 2014

What happened that no one cared about this victim? "Two energy drinks and donuts?"

----------

"The video shows that police told Powell to remove his hand from his pocket, which he did. Police said Powell held a knife in his hand, though it is unclear from the video if Powell actually brandished the knife at the officers. The owner of the convenience store from which Powell allegedly shoplifted told police he had a weapon, a claim corroborated by the owner of a nearby barber shop who called 911 about Powell, according to 911 calls obtained by St. Louis Public Radio.


Powell approached them, shouting, "Shoot me! Shoot me, already!" As Powell continued to approach them, the officers shot and killed him.

Fewer than 20 seconds elapsed from the time police arrived on the scene to the time they shot Powell. The two officers fired 12 shots at Powell, according to police chief Sam Dotson.


Powell allegedly took two energy drinks and donuts from a convenience store, the owner of the store told a 911 dispatcher.

Powell's death marks the second time in less than two weeks that police in the St. Louis metropolitan area have shot and killed a young black man suspected of a minor crime."

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
17. I believe the video shows them firing at him after he was down, when he was clearly not a
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 12:42 AM
Aug 2014

threat.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
6. Big Tree did an awesome job keeping "us" updated
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 08:11 PM
Aug 2014

... and representing the people of Ferguson.

I am still upset

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
11. How this story just got set aside I don't understand either.
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 10:13 PM
Aug 2014

Most people seem to say it was "suicide by cop" and that settles it. Also, I have learned, this is "legal" for cops because he was within 21 feet and he had a knife.

To me it looked like murder...the cops puled up and within 20 seconds shot him. Didn't bother to see what was wrong or anything. I thought the incident showed how badly cops deal with mentally ill people.

It's a sad state of affairs, but it is good to see that the focus on the Michael Brown killing remains and hopefully is the start of a movement. There continue to be protests/marches in Ferguson as of today. But, I was hoping that about Occupy and that didn't bring as much change as we needed.

(Also, just for the record, the Powell shooting was in St. Louis city proper, the Brown shooting was in Ferguson, which is in St. Louis county, the suburbs of St. Louis. St. Louis is one of the few cities that is not within a county).

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
13. The thing I can't get out of my head
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 10:43 PM
Aug 2014

There are three people who tried to fired shots presidents who were tackled and arrested on site. Two of them have even been paroled. With that in mind, the lack of proportion here is absolutely horrifying.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
12. People don't care I guess Koko. I was afraid that once the Media left Ferguson, this too would
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 10:26 PM
Aug 2014

be forgotten and we would return to the same old stuff.

If you are talking about the young guy who was shot and who was holding a knife at the time, it appears that in the US today, this is acceptable.

Cops have a license to kill. And not many are going to try to stop it apparently. We have so much more important things to 'get back to'.

To answer your question, nothing is going to happen to the cops who unnecessarily killed that unfortunate man. In the US killing minorities and poor people is the norm.

I appreciate your asking. I fully understood why Big Tree left. HE cares, and he realized that here on DU few care much about important issues like this. This is a political forum and politics most of the time, I and so many others have come to realize, have very little to do with PEOPLE. It's all about personalities it seems.

On the good side, Ferguson Protesters have filed a multi-million dollar lawsuit against the Ferguson Police Dept, it is a Civil Rights case. There is a thread with the details here on GD.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
18. The Live Streamers are still there.
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 02:31 AM
Aug 2014

They had a big protest today and more scheduled through Monday. DC had a big one today too.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
19. Yes, I saw that. But for the most part the media has moved on.
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 10:05 AM
Aug 2014

This tragedy finally drew the media's attention to the huge issues of racism in law-enforcement and the militarization of the police and for once, they were actually willing to report it.

Without a free and open press, which we have not had for a long time, it is easy to get to the point we are now at. If there had been a free and open press the problems could never have reached the point they have. As we saw, because of the coverage, they withdrew their 'army' which was the CAUSE of the 'riots' and the National Guard. But without that coverage, it's likely more people would have died or been seriously wounded and/or falsely arrested. What this brief moment demonstrated is just how important an independent media is to a democracy.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
21. Thanks, Sabrina 1...Just saw the lawsuit...
Sun Aug 31, 2014, 10:56 AM
Aug 2014

Shooting people for misdemeanor and bringing in MRAPs, Assault Weapons, and Military Gear and Tactics is finally getting national and international attention. If another incident happens..(and figuring it will given the climate in USA these days) there will be information and evidence to build on. The MS US Media can't cover up the militarization of our country and lack of rights for people to peacefully assemble much longer. That it had to get this far and will probably go further before the Politicians and the RWCrazies wake up is the tragic part.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»What happened to the seco...