Hiding host threads from the People is not in good keeping with openness and transparency. All but hosts can be blocked from posting in those threads and there is no reason for us to not be able to read what the hosts are saying about the members.

Thanks.

it would just cause worse meta crap - if your record is clean and you have a star you can sign up and read all you want.

most of the alerts lately have just been repeated attempts to post gun threads in GD. those and the folks who can't follow directions for posting in Latest Breaking News, - it is pretty mellow now that the crew is thinned out a bit and the GD guidelines are more clear.

The DU3 promise of transparency is pretty much like the Obama admin. promise of transparency.

Practically nonexistent.

And you might not believe the caterwauling that a few of the hosts spew.

Hence the idea that if they knew, and we knew, what the hosts had to put up with, it just might clean the place up.

It is admitted that the place is cleaner these days. I wonder who else they booted because of the caterwauling?

Sid

and Kali has no control over it.

my kitteh and catnip threads.

You are not leaving!

I was planning to say adios to the host crew today, as it was supposed to be my last day.

Sounds reasonable to me.

about the same

GD and the Lounge have the same problem--they don't get no respect!

I swear every time I enter GD I almost have to chant "We who are about to die salute you".

the Lounge gets more respect from me than just about any part of DU, and I know that you know why.

OK enough of that, pants off and back to the absurdity, (and I think I may have to thank someone in this thread for providing just a bit of that, even if it was not entirely intended to be absurd)

Can we see a link? Is that too nosy to ask? Sorry, I am nosy.

it wouldn't be a boo-boo

but I would sure like to see the alert and results anyway

you feel in a position to lecture kali?

which you immediately use as an opportunity to be disruptive and to pat yourself on the back about how you almost got a hide. Almost! Wow.

It's getting pretty easy to see why people just want a safe place to talk without the hysteria of those that can't accept that their disruption is not wanted because it's just a way to get posts hidden. How lame.

no, not mad a juror 1. sorry your alert failed, I sort of expected I might get a hide on that. guess most of them could see what was going on in the thread.

You should be very proud.

to say the least.

too funny. oh...

When her writing brings in millions of dollars for an organization, then I'll worry about her critique of my style.

is to write for her audience.

take more than a sentence or two. or a picture.

i mean.

really

reading is a good thing. in my house anyway.

you are killing me over here, Baines. LMAO ... Tears running out the corners of my eyes. so funny.

i thought so too.

funny.

some houses contain no mirrors.

the jury was stacked by my loyal friends? who are they? the Lounge? HoF? can't be you guys, you are all in the thread.

I don't know who the hell she could be referring to. sounds downright paranoid. anybody reading the thread can see he needed to STFU, it was only a matter of time before somebody said it.

guy whining for 30 or 40 posts about something that didn't even happen the way he thought and using the exact term he THOUGHT got him in trouble in every freaking reply while insisting he only used it once - ever - and it was for a good reason, dammit!....talk about some strange, possibly Freudian shit there

that the jurors could not have voted on content but must have voted based on the fact they like you, given she thinks your post so egregious. Not only did she alert on it, but unsatisfied that the alert failed, she feels compelled to bring it up here in an entirely unrelated context.

He may have needed to shut up, but Kali, you said the f word. You musn't say the f word to boys. It's not ladylike.

is a reference to you. Kali forgot to capitalize a word.

you know how totally counterproductive your lecture to kali is becoming?

you feel i should know. so, i take it, you are just sticking with your vague "they".

so I think I am going to say adios for now

it wasn't an alert from me. I got locked out of alerting for 24 hours early this morning.

Wow! You posted a picture, and were thrilled with your disruption. Thrilled, don't ya' know. So fucking lame.

i can see how you would take it that way. no. i have a dog. i laughed loudly and woke my four legged dog up....

courgie/pomeranian.

You can just feel the desperation in trying to get one of your posts hidden. Family dog reference = run to the jury! Run!

omg. You hang in there. They are really working you, big time.

truly, i am surprised i lasted 48 hours, lol.

It looks like they "them", lol, are stepping it up after redqueen's departure thread like it's some notch in their collective belts. And always with you, sea. You're always hunted down. It gets really old to see people deliberately pick and pick just to try and get posts hidden. Omg, so transparent.

Everyone needs to feel they accomplish something.

LOL, and do they rotate their nit-pick shifts on you all? Holy crap! I can see getting heated about issues, but even without issues, they just stalk and stalk and stalk. It's really, really pathetic, hysterical even They are just obsessed.

because truthfully I think very little about them.

Yeah, it's the absence of issues that is especially ridiculous. It's a lot of angst about nothing. So what if someone doesn't like a random stranger on the internet? It's easy enough to ignore the person. I certainly can get wound up from time to time. I did early this morning, but you have to let it go and move on. It's self-destructive to hold on to that stuff.

Yet, you can tell she was shamelessly gunning for a hide on one of you, especially sea. You handle it really well, I must say. It's impressive, but I'm sure it's tiresome at times, and that's what they play to. They just keep up the barrage of nonsense, and sooner or later, they'll get lucky and get a post hidden. Except tonight it backfired on her, LOL.

She posted in GD a couple of months ago? That was quite the spectacle.

I mean, usually it is you, so that's gotta be a given. I forgot what was behind that fit, but it's obvious it doesn't take much. There's no logic to it, just emotional fits.

Until everyone said it was definitely about me.

As for what prompted it, I couldn't say for sure. It did happen the day (or day after) Quinnox was PPR'd though.

poster until it was obvious he started posting inappropriate personal threads as if he was daring someone about something...

But now it makes sense that she had a reaction because that poster harassed all the right people, so to speak, you obviously being one of them.

I had no idea that guy got ppr'd - I've been avoiding DU for a couple of months - just popping in here and there when I wanted a quick rundown of news. He made DU suck for me with his nastiness and deliberate provoking of feminists.

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RC, but that was quite a while ago.

And i suspect that clusterfuck of a month-long meltdown which followed the posting of that picture, will be what people remember most about DU in 2014, in years to come.

It's firmly ensconced in legend, right up there with the moon bombing.

That was before my time.

Yes. It's the same photo. That's the point. It was expressing approval for her having posted the thread.

She likes to talk about how everyone gave her shit, when of course virtually no one mentioned her during that period, which clearly she found frustrating since she ran around telling everyone "it was me." I certainly am not one to deny another woman's agency. Her choices and what she claims as her successes are hers to make.

Post it. That the posting was a deliberate attack on women on DU, and that the posting was done specifically with the knowledge that it would precipitate 3 weeks or more of complete shit-losing in GD, over it.

When, after all, previous swimsuit issues had been posted, in previous years. What sort of Nostradamus- like prognostication skills were required to predict what would happen with this one?

And of course, all of the "disruption" could have been avoided if folks hadn't spent 3 weeks flippin' out over that one picture of women on a beach.

Claim it was a form of protest against . . . what was it . . . "mean girls," the wrong kind of "feminism," political correctness or something along those lines, so that certainly played into the notion it was a joint operation, as does the post I just linked to. But she posted it, and she claims credit for the whole thing, so far be it from me to belittle her successes.

The disruption could have been prevented if people had remembered they were in the 21st century instead of 1962. That of course is impossible for some.

It is hardly surprising that your solution to problems is for "feminists" to keep their mouths shut and let their betters control public space.

I myself avoided what clearly was deliberate flamebait. Now you insist the fault lies not with the person who posted the flamebait or even those who responded, but with people who did not post in that thread. It must be awful to have to share the planet with women who don't accept our responsibility for the decline of Western civilization that has accompanied our refusal to stay in our place.

And again, like i said, the SI swimsuit issue was posted in previous years as well.

But if my goal is supposedly to get people to keep their mouths shut, i must be doing a crap job.

Indeed, you aren't doing a very good job of it, but that doesn't stop you from trying. Actually the escapade had the opposite effect. It allowed more than hundred members to witness misogyny in action through the continued dismissive and hostile responses to women who raised concerns about objectification. They then spoke out and said they finally understand that HOF had not been exaggerating the prevalence of misogyny.

Now tonight we had another stunt out of outrage that a man who had referred to women as "skanks" dozens of times in a thread had been told to "shut the f up." That didn't turn out quite as planned either. Thems the breaks.

Which is, as it should be.

I'm guessing because they shared the sentiment.

But yeah, calling women "skanks" wouldn't' be a personal attack. That's "freedom of speech." What people do get exercised about does reveal a great deal about who they are. Naturally someone who refers to women in the most vulgar ways must be held in esteem above the rest of the DU membership.

Despite my apparent reputation as all manner of foul things, I don't think I ever have.

Thanks for sharing!

people were getting along. it was too peaceful. and it was her way of stirring shit. and instead of warrens mythical three weeks, it was a couple days. and instead of people giving shit about the OP it was thread after boob thread (until skinner and earl stepped in) to put women in their place, cause the place was united and happy and feeling good.

that is her.... it was me.... she is so proud of.

How else are you going to get posts hidden? That seems to be the goal. Look at the glee in which you talk about a "month-long meltdown" as if it's "Mission Accomplished." So transparent.

Moon bombing? Someone posted about the moon for the sole purpose of being disruptive and getting posts hidden? Really?

yes.

this is what is going on.

grade school crap.

pure and simple.

which is too pathetic for words.

But I did see Riff's apology thread, and I do feel bad for her if she is hurting. Sometimes you can do things and then look back and realize that what you did is not how you want to present yourself or have others view you. I feel bad, too, because this was Kali's thread and the apology thread is for Kali, too. But I do feel bad for my involvement as well.

It just gets really frustrating seeing some of the posters I have grown to really like and admire get harassed just to try and silence them! So frustrating. I see how you are also hunted down (like in this thread even!). Hang in there. I really love your sense of humor!

and next thing I knew all my barbaloots had crummies in their barbaloot suit tummies, and the pond for the swommee-swans was full of gluppity-glup and shluppity-shlupp.

No, no. There's only one person's advice I will take, when told what it is, what all I need.

And you are right. It definitely needed to be said.

I canceled my way out of it halfway through. This is completely silly on both sides and proper adjudication would remove this entire sub thread, possibly the entire thread.

If I was acting like a total asshole and somebody told me to shut the fuck up I think I would probably just continue being an ass, but I would still deserve it.

The next morning I would hope that I would have enough self-awareness and shame to apologize for being such a jerk. I have no idea if he has done that. I suspect not.

Hope that answers your question, if not you will have to clarify. I am not sure I got your comment correctly or not.

to not post what passed through my head when I read your post. It would have been good though.

maybe the monkeys controlling the cabana is just fine

I'm gonna have to watch those again soon. It's been a few years now.

seems kind of enlightening, really. funny how it all happens around here. I figured that would get hidden way before the bot one and then it turns out I get to see the failed alert on it, the alerter, and some strange kind of flamey meta meltdown in my non-disruptive-meta meta thread. man! love this whacky place.

who is they. who do you think they is. cause there was strong reference to this... they. we, were all in the thread with you. riff was sure i know the they. i am clueless. i wont be able to sleep, wondering who "they" are. lol. who?

that was part of the weirdness about this.

you kali, have a good night.

Really, they could have killed Bill in half the time. No one likes to wait.

it was good hosting with you for the short overlap we had. I think we all make mistakes ... or lose it every now and again.

I do not have a clue why ugliness showed up in such a nice thread ....? I think some folk are just combative ... or something