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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCop confronts jaywalking, white, drunk, rifle-toting man: "Please stop cursing at me, Sir."
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/31/1324831/-White-man-jaywalks-with-gun-guess-what-happenshttp://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2014/06/dash_cam_footage_from_open_car.html
The police tried to talk him down for 40 minutes.
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"As the interaction continues, Houseman talks of a coming revolution, and calls police officers "gang members" with a "history of violence." While the audio is scattered -- Houseman was across the street from Gordon and it was a somewhat windy day -- Houseman can also be seen grabbing his genitals and making lewd gestures toward Gordon."
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"Geik tells a dispatcher Houseman is "highly agitated" and "does not like police.""
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"Houseman agrees to meet with Geik the following morning, before apologizing again, shaking hands with him and walking away."
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)sarge43
(28,941 posts)Visual aid, reinforcing the learning process.
madokie
(51,076 posts)If that would have been a black man you know what would have happened. Shit kicked out of him at the very least, more like shot dead right where he stood
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)an everyday kind of privilege. Some folk get to walk blissfully ignorant, some have to walk warily suspicious.
White folk get to walk without fear.
Truly a privilege some other folk never have.
Get it?
madokie
(51,076 posts)and you are right some don't even know what we're/you're talking about
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)White folks being treated with kid gloves. It's part of the everyday white experience: cops giving you a lecture or taking you home for violations and even misdemeanor offenses which would land a black person in cuffs. This is especially true in the teenage years, where little violations end up determining the course of your life: a cop takes you home for a misdemeanor, there are few long-term consequences, to jail, and there are far more - even life-limiting consequences. Far more white folks have a story of "And the cop said X and let us go..." than black folks.
Oh my Gawd, for the "Well I'm white and..." crowd, obviously, white kids get arrested, too, and biased policing affects the poor and the white as well, sheesh. OBVIOUSLY. (It's a shame that we have to make these little qualifiers for sniffy white folks who still can't fathom systemic racism).
Octafish
(55,745 posts)That guy in the toy aisle at Walmart was near a gun, a plastic toy guy, but still.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)I realize there are some criminals where blowing them away is probably necessary. But in cases like Michael Brown, shooting appears to have been the only option considered.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)Yes they most assuredly need to confront a person in this situation ... and they need to handle themselves in this manner with all similar incidents ... regardless of race, gender, etc
freshwest
(53,661 posts)He shakes the same hand after what he did with it the last time they met?
Still no charges? No time in jail or the rubber room?
Maybe it's a small town where everyone went to school together.
'Officer Friendly,' indeed.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)erpowers
(9,350 posts)In the incident you link to the guy actually charged the police with a pistol. It was a fake pistol, but police had no way to know that because the orange tip had been taken off the gun. In addition, the guy in the article had already been convicted of and served prison time for offenses with children. The police were at his apartment to arrest him on suspicion of kidnapping and sexual assault. Even with all that when the guy first charged the police they retreated. After the retreat he continued to charge at them. At that point they gave multiple commands for him to stop and drop the weapon. They only shot him after he continued to charge. That seems very different from the Michael Brown case.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)I'm not trying to make any comparison to Brown and Ferguson. However, when your department has already been involved in one shooting, it probably changes how you're going to handle other incidents after that. The background you give speaks to that. It's probably why the guy in the OP didn't get shot within minutes. Imagine if that was a toy too?