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applegrove

(118,677 posts)
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 08:19 PM Sep 2014

Charles Koch Complains He And His Brother Are 'In Front Of The Firing Squad'

Charles Koch Complains He And His Brother Are 'In Front Of The Firing Squad'

by Igor Bobic at the Huffington Post

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/03/koch-brothers-firing_n_5759366.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

"SNIP........................


It isn't easy being a politically connected billionaire. At a private political strategy summit earlier this year, Charles Koch lamented that he and his brother David were being unfairly persecuted for their fight against liberalism and socialism.

According to audio of the June 16 event that was obtained by The Undercurrent and shared exclusively with The Huffington Post on Wednesday, the billionaire oil industrialist claimed he and his brother were "put squarely in front of the firing squad."

The Koch brothers have funneled millions of dollars to Republican and tea party groups, and GOP politicians frequently pay homage to the Kochs' electoral network. In an April op-ed for The Wall Street Journal, Charles Koch insisted that all of this political money was actually serving as a crusade against corruption.

.........


The Kochs don't have a monopoly on the billionaire blues. Venture capitalist Tom Perkins penned a letter to WSJ earlier this year, titled "Progressive Kristallnacht Coming?", in which he compared liberals' treatment of the "one percent" to Nazi Germany's treatment of Jews.



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Charles Koch Complains He And His Brother Are 'In Front Of The Firing Squad' (Original Post) applegrove Sep 2014 OP
They've been told they are job creators and should be revered. Then they do all kinds applegrove Sep 2014 #1
Absolutely true. Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #34
They have mercuryblues Sep 2014 #2
If only they were, if only they were. valerief Sep 2014 #3
Send them to Russia in 1917. Or maybe 1790 Paris. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #4
Are they yelling "Don't shoot"? Ilsa Sep 2014 #5
Ahhh Caretha Sep 2014 #6
not yet chuckie... wait for it... easychoice Sep 2014 #7
i think what they are trying to articulate.... Adam051188 Sep 2014 #8
How are they victimized? Victims of what? I know that the Koch brothers have created madinmaryland Sep 2014 #10
they feel persecuted. Adam051188 Sep 2014 #15
But they are not being persecuted. If anything they have brought this mess on by themselves. Now, madinmaryland Sep 2014 #25
the hour grows ever later Adam051188 Sep 2014 #36
Right on! We need to move towards a socialist society and need to push ahead in spite of the Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #38
They're addicted to greed and power, as the 99+% are trying to intervene on their and our behalf Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #57
I guess free speech of others bothers them too much Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2014 #60
^^ Agreed TBF Sep 2014 #23
Poor wittle babies. They have spent billions of dollars ruining this great country and they now madinmaryland Sep 2014 #9
Well said. Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #39
Yeah, they pay good money to their puppets to take the flack, cheyanne Sep 2014 #11
Isn't that too bad! elleng Sep 2014 #12
You want it should be a guillotine instead, Chuck? Brigid Sep 2014 #13
Thin Skinned? Dirty Socialist Sep 2014 #14
If only... The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2014 #16
Note to Davey & Chuck: cameras do not constitute a "firing squad" JHB Sep 2014 #17
...while learning how to catch gold bullets with their teeth? L0oniX Sep 2014 #18
DUzy BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #50
karma's a boomerang btch's eShirl Sep 2014 #19
I applaud Senator Harry Reid for bringing attention to the Koch Brothers Gothmog Sep 2014 #20
And this is bad...why? jmowreader Sep 2014 #21
2 Questions for Mr. Koch DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2014 #22
I'm gettin' a chubby just thinking of the Koch brothers in front of a firing squad. nt Bigmack Sep 2014 #24
I don't believe in the DP. OTOH, I would have no problem seeing all of their assets stripped madinmaryland Sep 2014 #29
Years ago it would have been physical, they are lucky they are living in these times and in the US! RKP5637 Sep 2014 #26
I am in tears over the Koch Brothers' "persecution". Terra Alta Sep 2014 #27
Money does not make you immune from personality disorders, victimization complex seems endemic Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #28
"We're being persecuted for our persecution!" arcane1 Sep 2014 #30
I think the metaphor you should be using is "guillotine", Koch-boy. Iggo Sep 2014 #31
Fight against liberalism and socialism? They mean fight against the American people AZ Progressive Sep 2014 #32
They are their own worst enemies. If I had been hired as Saddam Husseins advisor, I would have told brewens Sep 2014 #33
We should be so lucky. Bytheway, have you seen Citizen Koch yet? Ending is PRICELESS. Triana Sep 2014 #35
Hey Charlie & Davie, you ain't on the line...YET but STAY away from pissed off Americans of Ecumenist Sep 2014 #37
Where can I sign up? meow2u3 Sep 2014 #40
"We stole all the money away from working people and the middle class---Why don't they love us?" Warpy Sep 2014 #41
I'm for trying the 3 hour long 25 injection onecaliberal Sep 2014 #42
Poor babies. Owl Sep 2014 #43
To quote Jean-Luc Picard (in regards to the OP title): Martin Eden Sep 2014 #44
Their various companies must be taking a hit. Contrary1 Sep 2014 #45
Aw, bless, is the widdle multi-billionaire having some hurt fee-fees? NuclearDem Sep 2014 #46
The Coup - We got the Guillotine Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2014 #47
Maybe it is a siren call for their serfs to show fielty to them. applegrove Sep 2014 #48
Oh, shut the fuck up, Chucky boy, would ya? AverageJoe90 Sep 2014 #49
You'd think such billionaires would be smart enough not to whine.. we'd be wrong. Cha Sep 2014 #51
Boo-hoo. I feel so bad for the poor persecuted Jamaal510 Sep 2014 #52
boo hoo undergroundpanther Sep 2014 #53
Miserable excuse for human beings that they are, UtahLib Sep 2014 #54
Hell! I'll unfairly persecuted the damn assholes until they are dead and buried. Lint Head Sep 2014 #55
Too bad that the firing squad is only a metaphor...sigh! emsimon33 Sep 2014 #56
Guilty as charged Zambero Sep 2014 #58
The fact that they're whining about it tells us their time is drawing to a close. randome Sep 2014 #62
This is dumb and offensive on so many levels Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2014 #59
I would like to step up and volunteer to be on that squad. Katashi_itto Sep 2014 #61
John Milton, were he alive today, would argue that such a firing squad would be legal. LiberalAndProud Sep 2014 #63

applegrove

(118,677 posts)
1. They've been told they are job creators and should be revered. Then they do all kinds
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 08:20 PM
Sep 2014

of shit under that banner to people. And are surprised and outraged that taking more 'territory' for themselves and their egos results in anger. Typical cult.

 

Adam051188

(711 posts)
8. i think what they are trying to articulate....
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 08:25 PM
Sep 2014

....is that they(the 1%) feel just as victimized by our current economic model as the lower 99% or 90% or what have you. my conclusion is that in order to remedy everyone's complaints simultaneously northern European style social-capitalism should be immediately implemented.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
10. How are they victimized? Victims of what? I know that the Koch brothers have created
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 08:36 PM
Sep 2014

a lot of victims, but unless they are mentally ill, they ARE NOT victims.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
25. But they are not being persecuted. If anything they have brought this mess on by themselves. Now,
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 09:02 PM
Sep 2014

If they were advocated higher taxes on the wealthiest of the wealthy and were supporting candidates like Bernie Sanders, but who are they backing? They back candidates who support massive tax cuts, massive cuts to public programs, abolishment of Unions, and the personhood of Corporations.

And who are they being persecuted by?? I very rarely see anything on any of the news organization about them. The only place I see anything negative about them is here.

Edited to add: I do agree we need to go more towards a socialist society as many European nations have done, and also one that Bernie Sanders wants to move this country towards. But the Koch brothers and many of their ilk will fight tooth and nail against.

Louisiana1976

(3,962 posts)
38. Right on! We need to move towards a socialist society and need to push ahead in spite of the
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 09:17 PM
Sep 2014

Kochs and their ilk.

Uncle Joe

(58,364 posts)
57. They're addicted to greed and power, as the 99+% are trying to intervene on their and our behalf
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 03:13 AM
Sep 2014

to cure the Koch's of their malady, they perceive persecution.



http://www.wikihow.com/Perform-an-Intervention

If someone you love is struggling with alcohol, drug addiction, compulsive gambling or other destructive behaviors, staging an intervention might be the best way to help the person get better. People with serious addictive behaviors are often in denial that they have a problem. When heart to heart talks and other attempts to help prove ineffective, you can join forces with friends, families and a professional interventionist to confront the person with the truth and a detailed plan of action.

(snip)

Consider creating a list of actions and behavioral patterns that will no longer be tolerated. Next to each activity, write what your action will be if the person continues these behaviors.

(snip)

Anticipate the person’s reactions and have responses ready. If the person reacts defensively or with anger, everyone should be prepared to handle it without disrupting the intervention.



His feelings of persecution and "defensive" behavior is a natural reaction to the macro intervention now taking place.


Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
60. I guess free speech of others bothers them too much
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 08:21 AM
Sep 2014

Didn't they pressure PBS into censoring a critical documentary about them? That says all you need to know about how they feel about this country and its freedoms.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
9. Poor wittle babies. They have spent billions of dollars ruining this great country and they now
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 08:34 PM
Sep 2014

wonder why they are hated outside of the Fox Noise Echo Chamber?

Douchebags.

And by the way, Koch babies, when the one percent have ALL of their wealth stripped from them and they are forced to live in ghettos without any income, then you can talk. Until then, SHUT THE FUCK UP RIGHT FUCKING NOW, you arrogant assholes.



cheyanne

(733 posts)
11. Yeah, they pay good money to their puppets to take the flack,
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 08:37 PM
Sep 2014

so why should they have to?

They're wanting to lead a political revolution like Martin Luther King, only they forgot the part where you have to step up and face the public.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
17. Note to Davey & Chuck: cameras do not constitute a "firing squad"
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 08:46 PM
Sep 2014

People disagreeing with you and trying to push for policies the run counter to you favored ones is not "persecution".

And "liberalism and socialism" have actual definitions, which are not your personal definitions of them, which are so expansive that they boil down to "anything that impedes the world from becoming 'Thunderdome'".

Gothmog

(145,291 posts)
20. I applaud Senator Harry Reid for bringing attention to the Koch Brothers
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 08:53 PM
Sep 2014

Sunlight is a great disinfectant

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
22. 2 Questions for Mr. Koch
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 08:55 PM
Sep 2014

1. What kind of cigarette do you like? It doesn't matter if you don't smoke, just pick one.

2. What colors and patterns do you like in a blindfold?

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
29. I don't believe in the DP. OTOH, I would have no problem seeing all of their assets stripped
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 09:07 PM
Sep 2014

(including their clothing) and seeing them live in squalor in one of the Warsaw ghettos during WWII.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
28. Money does not make you immune from personality disorders, victimization complex seems endemic
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 09:06 PM
Sep 2014

among the super privileged, not just in the super stupid.

Iggo

(47,558 posts)
31. I think the metaphor you should be using is "guillotine", Koch-boy.
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 09:12 PM
Sep 2014

And pray to god it stays a metaphor.

brewens

(13,589 posts)
33. They are their own worst enemies. If I had been hired as Saddam Husseins advisor, I would have told
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 09:14 PM
Sep 2014

him to lighten up. Give the people more and make their lives better. Play ball with the inspectors. You and your boys can still have a palace each, Cuban cigars, expensive scotch, all the hookers you want. Give up something like 30% of the insane wealth (like you'd even notice) and still live like kings. They would be running things still today if they would have listened to someone like that.

These guys are begging for the shit to hit the fan, and when it does, it will stay hit!

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
35. We should be so lucky. Bytheway, have you seen Citizen Koch yet? Ending is PRICELESS.
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 09:15 PM
Sep 2014
http://watch.citizenkoch.com/

It's also available on Amazon Instant Video.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
37. Hey Charlie & Davie, you ain't on the line...YET but STAY away from pissed off Americans of
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 09:16 PM
Sep 2014

all stripes when ALL of them FINALLY wake up and realise what kind of snivelling, greedy assholes you are. Lead will come "a-flying" along with pitchforks, rotten veggies, fruit and roadkill as well as sharp implements AND rocks. NOPE, you're not walking the line YET but keep it up, you might find yourself facing the business end of some of those NRA type shootin' irons. Keep playing your stupid games and you WILL win your stupid prize...

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
40. Where can I sign up?
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 09:32 PM
Sep 2014

If the Kochs are "in front of a firing squad" as they claim, I'd like to pull the trigger. I'd be willing to put my principles aside to rid American society of its two greatest scourges--if I could get off scot-free!

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
41. "We stole all the money away from working people and the middle class---Why don't they love us?"
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 09:37 PM
Sep 2014

Jesus Christ on a trailer hitch! What do they expect?

Contrary1

(12,629 posts)
45. Their various companies must be taking a hit.
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 11:00 PM
Sep 2014

People are not as stupid as Kochco Bros would like to think. There are thousands of us at DU not purchasing their crap. There are undoubtedly many more thousands of intelligent consumers here in the US alone doing the same.

"Feeling persecuted" to the Kochs can only mean one thing. Fewer $$$ coming in.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
49. Oh, shut the fuck up, Chucky boy, would ya?
Wed Sep 3, 2014, 11:33 PM
Sep 2014

Also, "Progressive Kristallnacht", my ass. The Nazis persecuted the progressives in Germany! And to compare criticism of corporatism to the Holocaust isn't just fucking inane, it's highly offensive to the 15 million people who were murdered under Hitler's regime. So a major fuck you to Tom Perkins as well.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
52. Boo-hoo. I feel so bad for the poor persecuted
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 01:52 AM
Sep 2014

billionaire Koch Brothers.

Stay out of the kitchen if you can't take the heat! All you do is try to rig the system against the well-being of the majority of society, and spend oodles of dough to impose your own agenda on the rest of us. Fuck both of you and your selfish, warped views of freedom and prosperity.

undergroundpanther

(11,925 posts)
53. boo hoo
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 02:06 AM
Sep 2014

Maybe if they werent manipulative,rightwingnut control freak assholes,obvilious to how thier money and beliefs hurt people they might not feel so underfire. Iwish they were in front of a firing squad maybe they wouldnt get away with thier criminality anymore and that hoarded money could be used to help many in this country.

UtahLib

(3,179 posts)
54. Miserable excuse for human beings that they are,
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 02:23 AM
Sep 2014

I would love to see them get everything they so richly deserve.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
55. Hell! I'll unfairly persecuted the damn assholes until they are dead and buried.
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 02:45 AM
Sep 2014

Screw those John Bircher creeps!

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
58. Guilty as charged
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 08:11 AM
Sep 2014

Time was when the Kochs were certain that they could maintain their anonymity while pulling out all the stops in an effort to buy and control the political landscape. Nice try on their part, but it appears their cover has been blown and more people are becoming aware of what they're all about. The Kochs are sensitive to criticism? Too bad, it's all part and parcel of what they've "bought"

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
62. The fact that they're whining about it tells us their time is drawing to a close.
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 08:48 AM
Sep 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
59. This is dumb and offensive on so many levels
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 08:19 AM
Sep 2014

They clearly don't realize what country they're living in. Maybe they should move to North Korea, Iran, China, etc.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
63. John Milton, were he alive today, would argue that such a firing squad would be legal.
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 09:28 AM
Sep 2014

THE TENURE OF KINGS AND MAGISTRATES:

PROVING THAT If IS LAWFUL, AND HATH BEEN HELD SO THROUGH ALL AGES, FOR ANY, WHO HAVE THE POWER, TO CALL TO ACCOUNT A TYRANT, OR WICKED KING; AND, AFTER DUE CONVICTION, TO DEPOSE, AND PUT HIM TO DEATH; IF THE ORDINARY MAGISTRATE HAVE NEGLECTED, OR DENIED TO DO IT.

So there is that. As for calling me a Nazi, Fuck you royally, Mr. Perkins.

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