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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 12:08 AM Sep 2014

I wish 60 million trafficked Indian people got the Western attention one Indian elephant has

(Background: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5485525 )

Let me first say, yes, I am perfectly aware that people are capable of being angry about two things at once; there's nothing wrong with giving money or attention to Raju; I certainly hope SOS wins the case and Raju doesn't have to go back to Mr. Shahid.

Still.

I can't give money to kids begging on the street because the NGO's estimate that about three quarters of them are trafficked and the money goes straight to their traffickers. It's OK to give them bottles of water or packs of cookies, but you have to make sure they drink it or eat them in front of you so you'll know they don't get stolen from them. There's an even worse scene when it's a woman and child: if the child is screaming, it's probably legit, but if the child is zonked out... traffickers give a small child to a woman along with a small dose of heroin or alcohol to keep the kid docile, and have them go beg. Sex trafficking gets a lot of attention, but it's actually the smallest sector of human trafficking: the vast majority is for simple labor (including begging).

Anyways. I hope Shahid loses his court case and Raju can stay at the preserve. But I wish human trafficking got as much media attention...

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renate

(13,776 posts)
1. I agree. I think it's because we feel we can do something about a single case of injustice
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 12:46 AM
Sep 2014

And I think it's because we get a warm fuzzy feeling about Raju (especially since right now he's safe) but we're just so utterly horrified about human trafficking. And, even more importantly, I think we just feel so completely helpless in the face of SO MUCH cruelty and heartbreak and misery: it's human nature to focus on something we can fix rather than on something it would take the world working together to eliminate. (Maybe like global warming... we're so f-ed, almost irretrievably, that I suspect that's why people just don't like thinking about it.) I'm not saying that's a valid reason for giving Raju more attention than trafficking, but I think that's part of the reason. If there were a single child we could save, he or she would get the same attention. I think and hope so, anyway.

But yeah. I agree with you 100%.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
2. we see this everywhere but it could be because humans are seen as the problem and people
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 01:05 AM
Sep 2014

know animals are not on equal level so they feel the need to protect them.

in india i think i probably liked the stray dogs more than the people. this is probably true in the US also and anywhere else also.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
3. Understood. This fall I will be interviewing someone about this (Trafficking) from NHTRC
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 01:10 AM
Sep 2014

National Human Trafficking Resource Center

They have a free DVD and resources you can get and pass out:

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/orr/programs/anti-trafficking

They have posters/cards/etc you can order free. As I have noted elsewhere I used to do a radio show and that is picking back up this fall and have spoken with a media rep there (NHTRC) to set up an interview. Their 'Look beneath the surface' campaign is worth taking a look at.

I am also in touch with local radio personalities and am hoping to fire up some awareness of the issue that way (outside my own program) but that takes time (which I understand, there are a slew of things to be covered, election season, college football - which is huge here, etc). Part of media is knowing when to hit up what for maximum impact.

There is no 'wrong' time to bring up issues, so don't be discouraged when things you bring up don't get much in the way of views/replies. I am woefully ignorant on the issues in India, but not because I don't care but because I only have so many hours in a day to keep up on things. And western mainstream media is a joke on just about everything.

Thanks for the post and I will bookmark this and work it into my show (which should be in early October and be weekly from there on out till the end of the year).


daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
4. I don't understand why people blow off the difficult stuff
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 01:12 AM
Sep 2014

I've noticed it even here on DU. If you post a funny cartoon or a graphic, a lot of people will recommend the post. But if you're talking about hard subjects like racism, discrimination against women, people living in poverty, people still living in slavery - it's hard to get your posts recommended. Those posts get a lot of views, but they don't get recommended.

In real life polls I've withheld my vote from parcel taxes I didn't think a huge priority: when I withhold my vote, and the measure doesn't get passed, that's me, as a voter, sending a message.

When a few hundred people view, yet refrain from recommending a post about slavery...yet can't up-vote a post about in-house bickering fast enough, it really makes me wonder.

I would like to point out a simple idea of what means to be a Democrat:

A Democrat is someone who builds civilization by enabling the citizens who will uphold the Democracy.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
6. Awful. How heart breaking.
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 02:39 AM
Sep 2014

I love elephants, but it is so true that far too few pay attention to those children's lives. People have no idea how many people live in slavery today, more than at any point in human history.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
8. And I don't want to come across as being against elephant activism
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 05:31 AM
Sep 2014

I just get sad from the differing response rates in the western media.

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
7. I thank you for this
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 05:00 AM
Sep 2014

Because you live in the country - you are able to be our eyes. And I agree with all you've written. I've not given money for Raju - didn't know this case was even going on. . . But you make excellent posts.

My personal "pet" project has become Chimpanzee/Primate rescue/retirement homes in the US. But my rule is for ever dollar I donate - I give two to the food bank or non profit shelters.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
9. I have a somewhat famous beef with the primates here
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 05:36 AM
Sep 2014

(Google "the monkeys still control the cabana" if you aren't familiar...)

That said, I'm not trying to come down on animal charities (I give to them too). I'm just sad how hard it is to get trafficking in persons any attention.

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
10. I know that was your intent!
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 05:45 AM
Sep 2014
And the question/thought is fair.

I'm a person that will always put human beings first when I have the choice. I'll google that!

We are actively pursuing purchasing land in Costa Rica and building a "tiny house" in the tree house vein - for the purpose of drawing monkeys to our property. We've both shaken hands with a monkey and gotten "lovey eyes" -

They are very very cute and amusing - they are also very very very naughty!

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
11. K&R
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 06:06 AM
Sep 2014

I think the elephant story provided an entry point for activism that people could access immediately.

Are there resources we can help and share here about human trafficing in India?

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
14. Global Initiative to Fight Human Trafficking
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 08:28 AM
Sep 2014

Global Initiative to Fight Human Trafficking
http://www.ungift.org/

International Labour Organization
Forced labour, human trafficking and slavery
http://www.ilo.org/global/topics/forced-labour/lang--en/index.htm

U.S. Department of State
Trafficking in Persons Report
http://www.state.gov/j/tip/rls/tiprpt/

Tracking anti-trafficking bills in Congress:
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/subjects/human_trafficking/6210

Safe Horizon
Anti-Trafficking Program
moving victims of violence from crisis to confidence
http://www.safehorizon.org/page/anti-trafficking-program--60.html?gclid=CIbiyZLEx8ACFWho7AodjFMAOQ

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
12. If only we Americans could fix Indian culture! It's in our power, after all.
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 07:52 AM
Sep 2014

It's a heavy burden, but I guess it's our to bear, eh, Recursion?

LisaLynne

(14,554 posts)
13. There is a clear action that can be taken and people willing to take that action ...
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 08:14 AM
Sep 2014

in this case. In human trafficking, as you even say, it's complex and there are no easy and quick fixes.

And you're right -- people can be angry about many things at once. I don't rank suffering. If there is something I can do to lift the suffering of ONE being, I will do it. Maybe that doesn't seem like a enough to you, but if enough people do it enough times, it will make a difference. This case is raising awareness. If no suffering and cruelty is accepted, it is good for us all and that is what we are hopefully moving towards.

I just don't like this argument and have heard it way too many times: Why worry about this when THIS is happening??? And it usually comes up when people are doing something for animals. Why not worry about it all? We need to. We HAVE to. As I said before, if we fight injustice in all it's forms, it moves us towards ending ALL injustice.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
16. This is also more worthy of attention than the anguish of multimillionaire Hollywood celebrities
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 09:20 AM
Sep 2014

whose nude selfies have been hacked into.

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