Just sayin'

because nobody at the appropriate agencies either believed him or thought it was a problem. You do know that Stupid's administration packed regulatory agencies with do-nothing bible school graduate Republicans, right?

I know I'd like to know who owns those towers.

He's a man selling a product. He says "this product can detect these 'special towers' that intercept other phone calls". If you buy his phone, you'll be able to "detect" them too.

and I don't see any salesmanship in the article, only an explanation of how those towers were detected and analyzed.

that are only available in the modified Samsung Galaxy that his company sells?

It has more spy ware downloaded by Samsung and Verizon than anything I have ever seen before. Apps that you have no control over, do absolutely nothing for the phone or service but have complete control of everything on your phone. You can't stop it, you can't delete it.

I don't know enough of either the technology or lingo to say this correctly, but the phone has been sealed? Can't get to the root any longer so it's too late to do anything.

I am sure I said that wrong
. A good friend that knows all this stuff looked at it.

Not being paranoid. If I were paranoid I would get a different phone. What I stated is fact, about the app on the phone.

I will look at that tomorrow, thank you. Past my bed time

You can always root the OS of your Android. That's different from jailbreaking the CDMA/GSM system (which can also be illegal in some circumstances).

I mentioned Replicant because your complaint was about the apps, etc. at the OS level, and Replicant is a replacement that lets you control that (it's different from what ESD claims to be doing, which is a clean rewrite of the GSM stack).

if you notice your phone dropping to 2G you can assume you are being monitored. I say that because to the best of my knowledge there are no 2G commercial networks operating in the US.

Details on this and has met a brick wall with the government.

The FCC said it is investigating but refuses to allow information through the FOIA

But the locations don't even match.

I'm not saying that's all that it is, but it does raise flags it's being exploited by their marketing team.

The security being you know you're not on a private line. Are the charges for these various cell phones reasonable given that they are no longer private conversations?

how many hours they must waste on totally banal chatter from teenagers and adult cell phone addicts, whoever they are.

I still want to know if this is a thing, and who owns it.

I am good for inane calls!

I was thinking yesterday how far suspicions of citizens will go; I travel fairly frequently and it's hobby related not job related; is that suspicious? When I go to a dog agility trial and call my husband saying we " blew up" in our first run, is my verbiage suspect?

The Border Collie is simply a cover for my nefarious activities, ha ha!

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Me to drop calls...I'm pissed. If it is just the regular day to day NSA surveillance... I will up my phone sex calling to epic proportions.

And we didn't like the bridge to nowhere...
the cloud's not safe anymore...
Now this...
Maybe they are... towers to the cloud...

Or the beginning of a great clothes line in the sky that homeowners associations finally won't be able to touch...

Interesting post, HipChick. Got My imagination humming.

~ Lmsp 🙌

They were used overseas for drone targeting before that, they came up in the news story months ago about how cell phone sim cards were used to find drone targets.

I swear, this board sometimes.

We have a map that the CEO of a company came up with and claims are mysterious towers. They don't match up with the Stingray locations.

It's not like the civil libertarian and tech communities don't overlap. If he's BSing somebody will call him out on it promptly.

Stingrays are mobile devices. The WOT versions were drone mounted.

have to be flied. In my neck of the woods the activitists come out when one is proposed or talked about. Whats he selling a new phone??

The "mysterious fake cellphone towers" are certainly an intriguing hook, but the article is just a pretext for giving "Les Goldsmith, the CEO of ESD America," some column space to hawk his product- the GSMK CryptoPhone 500.