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applegrove

(118,659 posts)
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 02:57 AM Sep 2014

"The 7 strangest libertarian ideas"

The 7 strangest libertarian ideas

by Richard Eskow, AlterNet, at Salon

http://www.salon.com/2014/09/03/the_7_strangest_libertarian_ideas_partner/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

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5. Selflessness is vile. From libertarian avatar and prophet Ayn Rand: “The man who attempts to live for others is a dependent. He is a parasite in motive and makes parasites of those he serves.”

Aid workers. Doctors Without Borders. Gandhi. Martin Luther King Jr. Mother Teresa. In this libertarian view, all of them are “parasites” who make parasites of those they serve—because, of course, the free market would eventually eliminate poverty. (Never mind the millions who would starve in the meantime.)

Not only are these good people “parasites” in this libertarian view, they are deliberately parasitical (“in motive”). They lack the nobility of character needed to act purely out of self-interest, like the murderer Ayn Rand so admired. As Mark Ames reported in 2012, Rand,


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"The 7 strangest libertarian ideas" (Original Post) applegrove Sep 2014 OP
Rand certainly did understand working in her self-interest... TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #1
Read this Salon article. rgbecker Sep 2014 #2
But Rand Paul is CORRECT on foreign policy and deserving of our consideration. wyldwolf Sep 2014 #3
Rand Paul’s flip-flop nightmare: “Non-interventionist” now backs war in the Middle East pampango Sep 2014 #4

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
1. Rand certainly did understand working in her self-interest...
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 04:57 AM
Sep 2014

when she decided that accepting Medicare and Social Security (under a phony name, of course) was a better choice than dying broke when she had lung cancer in her final years.

She never accepted the idea that her chain smoking had anything to do with the cancer, and never explained why, with all her yakking about self-reliance, she could never amass enough cash to deal with her own life.

And yet there is an Ann Rand Institute with people believing her bullshit.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
4. Rand Paul’s flip-flop nightmare: “Non-interventionist” now backs war in the Middle East
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 09:09 AM
Sep 2014

Well, for all the talk of Rand Paul’s adherence to principle, we’re learning that he’s actually highly malleable when it comes to his policy positions. And as for his willingness to buck the Republican establishment, we’re seeing that whenever he does bend on policy, it’s usually in the direction of the Republican consensus. He did it on immigration, portraying himself as both a hardline border security proponent and an advocate for comprehensive reform, depending on which viewpoint dominated Republican thinking at the time. And now that Republicans are pressuring President Obama to take unspecified military action against ISIS, he’s abandoning his much-derided (in Republican circles) anti-interventionist foreign policy rhetoric in favor of the bellicose posturing of the rest of the hawkish GOP.

“If I were President,” Paul wrote in an email to the Associated Press, “I would call a joint session of Congress. I would lay out the reasoning of why ISIS is a threat to our national security and seek congressional authorization to destroy ISIS militarily.” That’s an overly simplified version of what the U.S. is looking at when it comes to confronting the terrorist group. Any U.S. effort to “destroy ISIS militarily” will require a huge commitment of men and materiel, along with political commitments from regional actors, and will take years.

And as Steve Benen points out, this is a complete flip from what Rand Paul was saying just last week about America’s role and responsibility in confronting ISIS:

A week ago today, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) wrote an op-ed for the Wall Street Journal condemning “interventionists,” who are quick to use military force abroad “with little thought to the consequences.” Over the course of his 900-word piece, the Republican senator was dismissive of the “hawkish members of my own party.”

“A more realistic foreign policy would recognize that there are evil people and tyrannical regimes in this world, but also that America cannot police or solve every problem across the globe,” Paul wrote. “Only after recognizing the practical limits of our foreign policy can we pursue policies that are in the best interest of the U.S.”

http://www.salon.com/2014/09/03/rand_pauls_flip_flop_nightmare_non_interventionist_now_backs_war_in_the_middle_east

I think Rand is serious about running for the republican presidential nomination and is "bending" some policies that are not popular with republicans.
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