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rdking647

(5,113 posts)
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 10:53 AM Sep 2014

if corporations are people ....

if a person is caught polluting on a large scale they face jail time
if a person kills someone due to their reckless actions they go to jail

so i propose that corporations face the same penalty.
since they cant actually go to jail they should be prevented from operating for a set amount of tu=ime

monsanto is found guilty of dumping toxic waste????
monsanto cant operate for 5 years


do that once or twice and you will see corporate america start screaming hos they arent people....

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if corporations are people .... (Original Post) rdking647 Sep 2014 OP
Why throw 20,000+ people out of work? Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #1
That objection is problematic Orrex Sep 2014 #2

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
1. Why throw 20,000+ people out of work?
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 11:01 AM
Sep 2014

Why not just force them to pay for the cleanup, impose a large fine, and criminally charge any managers who were aware of the misconduct?

Orrex

(63,212 posts)
2. That objection is problematic
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 12:34 PM
Sep 2014
Why throw 20,000+ people out of work?
Although it's unfortunate that jobs would be lost, this fact can't be used as a get-out-of-jail-free card, either. When the sole bread-winner in a family goes to jail, there's a good chance that the family will lose its house and car, etc., but the person still has to serve the time. It might be mitigated, but the courts don't simply pat them on the back and let them go free with a relatively infinitessimal fine.

An alternative: for the full term of the sentence, the corporation becomes the property of the state, with all profits going to the state, and all board members' corporate holdings being frozen during the term of the sentence. Further, board members can leave the board during the term of the sentence but must forfeit their stock in the company to the state if they do so.

We must also get rid of "no admission of wrong-doing" as a feature of plea agreements, and fines must be sufficient to punish the corporation. Such fines should not be permitted to be written off as losses for tax purposes either.


Corporations are fictional entities constructed by legal process. There is no real reason why the law can't be corrected to hold corporations accountable.

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