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hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
16. Pops once said he fired one up
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 05:49 PM
Sep 2014

every day of his adult life. It isn't like he kept it a big secret or anything.

The Nixon angle makes it even funnier.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
5. Great story, but consider the source
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 01:46 PM
Sep 2014

I would not believe anything said by Roger Stone. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Stone

The real question - if it happened how did Stone learn of it. He was, of course, a Nixon confidante, but presumably if true, all Nixon would have known is that he met Armstrong at the airport. This would mean that the ONLY one who would have known was Armstrong, but per this, he was concerned that he could have embarrassed the US. Would HE, when he escaped detection, have then told anyone? The "sourcing" that a jazz musician told another Nixon guy is pretty lame.

Not to mention, three pounds! I've never smoked pot, but remembered that Paul McCartney was arrested in Japan with a bit less than half a pound (I googled to check amount) -- and could have faced a smuggling charge as that was considered too much for personal use. As I said, I never smoked pot, so I could be very offbase. Not to mention, why would he even consider bringing pot into NYC -- I would bet it would not have been hard to find there.

Note that to some, this story diminishes Armstrong, while making Nixon more personable.

nolabear

(41,963 posts)
8. Weeeellll, who knows. But here's another very entertaining and supportive article.
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 03:33 PM
Sep 2014
http://dangerousminds.net/comments/reefer_man_did_louis_armstrong_turn_richard_nixon_into_his_drug_mule


Btw anything can enhance or diminish someone in various eyes. I doubt Louis would have been worried 'bout dat, nor am I.

EEO

(1,620 posts)
6. Nixon could have been a great president if he wasn't such a paranoid and bigoted asshole.
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 02:43 PM
Sep 2014

The man was pretty hardworking, smart, and knew how to get things done in Washington.

Sure. He wouldn't be a liberal, but compared to these nuts in the GOP now President Nixon would be considered a moderate - and not have a chance in hell of being nominated by the Ghoulish Old Party.

tblue37

(65,372 posts)
10. EPA, Clean Air and Water Act, and a few other initiatives like those.
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 03:34 PM
Sep 2014

He was a paranoid, despotic guy, but in some ways, he was more liberal than our current corporate controlled Dem Party leadership.

nolabear

(41,963 posts)
11. LOL! "And if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle."
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 03:35 PM
Sep 2014

Not really dissing your post, it was just an opening for one of my favorite lines. I'm pretty sure Nixon was diagnosable with a host of things I wouldn't want a president to have, but that's all Watergate under the bridge.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
12. Have you read "Family of Secrets" by Russ Baker?
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 03:45 PM
Sep 2014

Although Nixon was petty and paranoid, he is portrayed as a victim of Watergate not its perpetrator.

http://www.familyofsecrets.com/



EEO

(1,620 posts)
13. I've read that he may not have concocted the plan, but he certainly got in trouble for trying...
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 03:48 PM
Sep 2014

to cover it up.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
14. FoS suggests that Tricky Dick ran afoul of the East Coast Establishment and was set up
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 04:00 PM
Sep 2014

An over-simplification of the argument, of course (the book is 500 pages long), but that's the basic idea.

Read "Family of Secrets" or "American Dynasty" (by Kevin Phillips) and I guarantee you will never, ever view the Bush clan in quite the same light. It's like reading a history of the Gambino family.

red dog 1

(27,804 posts)
15. The "Niagara Falls Reporter"?
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 05:23 PM
Sep 2014

Wouldn't story like this, if true, be in MSM such as the NY Times, Chicago Tribune, LA Times, WaPo?

According to the OP, Charles McWhorter was the one who told Nixon
"who heard the story from one of the jazz musicians traveling with Satchmo"

Why would one of the jazz musicians traveling with Sathmo risk getting Louie Armstrong in trouble by telling a Nixon aide about that?....Sounds very fishy to me.

Three POUNDS of pot?
..If it had been three OUNCES, I might be more willing to believe it
Three pounds of pot is what drug dealers carry, not jazz musicians

Consider the source....Roger Stone.

nolabear

(41,963 posts)
17. Well, it's not new. You can find it in many places. Snopes says if it ain't true it oughta be.
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 07:31 PM
Sep 2014

If you Google it you'll see it in a lot of places, and with some slight variation. But it's documented enough to relate, and too funny not to.

red dog 1

(27,804 posts)
18. I believe you
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 05:06 PM
Sep 2014

I'll Google it later.

Meanwhile, I agree with you that "Satchmo's Mule" is a great band name.

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