General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPosted here, on the recommendation of another DUer ...
Okay, I'm leaving my home this morning for work ...
I turn out of my sub-division, onto the road way. I drive the 500 feet and pull into turn lane (to go South) and stop at the red stop-light. There is a (huge) older-model black Chevy Pick-up truck with un-tinted windows, covered with "Nobama", NRA and Marine Corps stickers and blasting the local AM hate station (I could tell because I love the morning air so I had my windows down).
At the opposite corner, there is a motorcycle cop. I see him there every morning, as my Town is a known "Speed and Traffic Enforcement-Trap". There are always two motorcycle cops, one at the (SW) corner and another about 1,000 feet down the (south-bound) road. The cop at the corner calls ahead to alert on speeders, light runners, etc.
When the light changes, "Huge Pick-up Guy" makes a left turn (against the light), cutting off the east-bound traffic, into the north-bound lane of a divided road. He proceeds about 30 feet, makes a U-turn (this time cutting off the approaching North bound traffic) pulls up to the corner and makes a U-turn onto the Southbound lane.
I'm still sitting at the light with my mouth wide open. As my light changes, I see the cop talking into his shoulder mic.
I proceed on my way, driving just under the posted speed limit (Hey ... I know of both of the cops, I see them every morning), watching Huge Pick-up Guy pull quickly away from me, as he passed cop #2. As I pass Cop #2, we make eye contact.
About 1,000 feet down the road, I see Cop #2 with his lights coming down the road. I'm thinking "Somebody's gonna get a big ticket ... running a light, making two illegal turns, speeding, all in front of traffic cops? ... Yep, a big ticket."
Then it dawns on me ... the cop is in the curb lane, and so am I. So I pull over and the cop pulls off the road behind me. We, then, do the "traffic stop tango." 20 minutes later, I am allowed to proceed ... no ticket, no explanation for the stop.
Oh, yeah ... did I mention I drive a silver, 2014, Nissan Altima?
I don't wish to cast aspersions; but, something just does seem right.
(X-posted from here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/11878394 )
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)What happened was bullshit and so wrong. And I'm sorry you have to put up with that ignorance, prejudice, racism.
ms liberty
(8,577 posts)Warpy
(111,267 posts)You know any black man driving a nice car just has to have stolen it.
You were low hanging fruit. That cop knew Crazy Pickup Man was going to ruin his whole day if he stopped him for reckless driving.
I wish there was a way I could stop this from happening, like stop hiring morons on police departments.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)I would say it is unbelievable, but it isn't, as we've learned. Don't know your town but maybe the DOJ needs to start looking into it as well as Ferguson and all the other towns where this shit is happening.
Sorry that happened. Maybe it's time to start video taping everything and filing lots of lawsuits until it doesn't pay them anymore.
Definitely people should always have a camera with them.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)I, now, after 15 years of dealing with this, know the Police Chief, personally. And I know, over the years, at least three officers no longer work for him.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)It's isn't that way in many other places, as we know.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,627 posts)Unbelievable.
They let the scofflaw get away? And they pulled you over.
DWB. In a fancy new car, yet.
FUCK.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I am so sorry this happened to you.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)salin
(48,955 posts)is when they take your license and run it?
Yes it sounds strange that he wouldn't explain why you were stopped before collecting your license to run it.
And it sounds strange that you, not the other guy, was stopped.
Yep - aspersions seem ln line to be cast.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)On a good day with a veteran officer:
Officer: Good Morning, Sir. Do you know why I stopped you?
Me: No sir. I do not. My plates are current, my tail-lights are operating, I came to a full stop at the light and I drive was using my cruise control so I know I wasn't speeding. (If found that answering those pretexts for stops, speeds up the stop).
Officer: May I she your license and registration?
Me: Sure (I already have them out ... No "sudden movement/he was reaching for a gun" shooting here ... and as I hand the officer the document ...). Will you tell me why you stopped me?
...
That usually results in my being let go.
salin
(48,955 posts)my typical stops start the same... except when I say "no" - the officer tells me why.
I have had the break light not working, going to fast, and (oops - ) expired tags.
I have had mixed results (warning, ticket, verbal warning).
Sure it is no surprise when I add that I am a white female.
Nor is it when I suggest that I get a response because they have a moving violation they witnessed, and when you were stopped the officer couldn't stop for the moving violation - because you hadn't committed one that he could cite.
(Just stating the (outrageous) obvious.)
Sorry that you had to start your day with such ignorance.
Heidi
(58,237 posts)What color was the cop? I think that's worth discussing.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)Maedhros
(10,007 posts)Glassunion
(10,201 posts)betsuni
(25,532 posts)Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)hearing stories like this make me feel lucky that I don't drive yet. The good news is that you at least didn't get a ticket (rightfully so), but you had about 20 minutes wasted out of your day for nothing, while there was a nut who broke a few traffic laws and apparently didn't get stopped.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Essentially, he/she said: It was the universe protecting me from being on the wrong square, 1 second to 19 minutes, 59 seconds, later.
I can get with that!
mercuryblues
(14,532 posts)that happen with me. I got off on the wrong exit. I drove across the road to get back on the highway.
At the exit I was supposed to get off- when I got there an accident had just happened. Pieces from the car were still flying.
Have fun with your new car.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)edit: You don't happen to live in Ferguson, by any chance?
tblue37
(65,377 posts)MadrasT
(7,237 posts)It is so wrong on so many levels.
LongTomH
(8,636 posts)raven mad
(4,940 posts)Read the original and am glad you posted in GD for visibility.
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)My 9 yr old grandson is already guilty of being a kid while black. White folks find it hard to imagine until they have a black child or grandchild or spouse is black.
I'm not going to shut op. I support the posts that bring racism to the light of day.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)They have extreme me first mentality.
JI7
(89,250 posts)she is latina.
we work in an area with mostly whites and i remember she told me about some cop in the area bothering her boyfriend about something and how his car wasn't supposed to be somewhere. i don't remember any of the details. but many times i have seen people who have car trouble or other issues and the cops don't make a big deal out of it. sometimes if the person gets there just as the cop is about the write the parking ticket the cop will let them leave without writing the ticket.
but when i saw that her boyfriend was black i remembered that story and suddenly got what was going on.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)carolinayellowdog
(3,247 posts)As a white man with many black and biracial relatives, I really thought I "got it" more than most white people. Until, that is, racial profiling hit me smack in the face this summer on Amtrak-- I posted this in the AA forum then, reposting from a comment on a FB group about a blog post on profiling:
I'm sorry if this is off-topic, but as an old middle class white man I have to report an experience I had on an Amtrak train last week that relates to this blog. On the way back from DC to Danville I spent half the time in the club car playing cards (spades, interestingly) with three young black people- one man from Queens, NY, another from Greensboro, and a young lady from New Orleans now living in NJ. And for the first time in my white life, I got the distinct impression that we were being eavesdropped on, spied on, in our club car conversation by the concession attendant-- an impression shared by at least one of my card playing companions. It was downright weird to feel that I was part of a group that was being racially profiled as somehow "up to no good"-- and MAYBE it was all in our imaginations. But never in my life have I had such a sensation before, and it seems more than coincidental that I was having a good time with three young black people the first time in my life this ever happened to me. Hope it was all in my imagination.
betsuni
(25,532 posts)In the "Prairie Home Companion" town of Lake Woebegon, you can tell people's religion from their cars. Lutherans drive Fords and Catholics drive Chevies. The last few DWB incidents in the news that I've seen (which happened in Texas and Arizona I think), I noticed that all the cars stopped were Japanese. I'm wondering if there isn't a bit of assuming (in red states) that a Ford pick-up or a giant Chevie SUV is being driven by a white Republican ("Real American" so a right-wingish cop wouldn't give them a second glance. A fuel-efficient Nissan or Toyota driver is more likely to be The Enemy, a liberal, a Democrat, and when they look closer and see a black person -- BINGO TURN ON THE FLASHING LIGHTS. See, a silly thought.