... that all he can do is open is bill silently, close it, then shake his head as he walks away?

That's how I feel when I hear shit like this.

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To that type of insanity.

I go slack jaw too often these days

You can't fix stupid. Amazing someone with over fourteen thousand posts here can be that mind-numbingly stupid.

Maybe not if you have been here long enough

That poor white people liked slaves?

They hated them because they were taught slaves weren't. human.
That is way different that resenting them for having it so good as a slave.

I thought the post was suggesting they were resentful because slaves drove down wages for poor whites.

The idiocy of that arguement really pissed me off

we have a whole group of people now who will talk until they're blue in the face about how people on public assistance are "living it up" (the old "welfare queen" meme). That doesn't mean their belief is based in anything close to reality, but they seem to believe it anyway.

It's racism

It was the practice of slavery by (obscenely wealthy) white men that drove down wages for poor whites.

The slaves were not responsible for the plight of the poor whites-the slaveowners were. This is a crucial distinction.

angry at the immigrants for this rather than the employers who hire them.

Racism

Now we have slavery revisionists telling us white folks were victims and slaves drove their wages down unf'ing believable.

a full understanding of the socio-economic issues of their day, and might instead blame the nearest person they were already raised to dislike, for their problems.

"We take good care of our slaves, they have better lives under our protection than those poor miserable white trash!"

I guess they did feed them - they had to maintain their investment.

The part about being able to sell them to someone else who would continue this cradle to grave maintenance indicates they didn't think they were human enough to become attached to the people they knew or/and were their family.

Even the most comfortable, relatively, slave was not free to do what they wanted for their lives. So I guess these idiots expect us to accept their view of black inferiority and how kind it was for master to "take care" of them and make sure they had a place in the world.

But that narrative forgets all the slaves that ate from troughs and slept on floors with no bedding whatsoever. If it was so great why did they runaway? Of course they never talk about that.

They really idealize the old South. Which was nice for them. Just not for so many others. Ugh.

The south was genteel to whites. I bet 99% of the slaves would tell a very different story and they have. Anyone who read any of their accounts and still pedals this bullshit is a racist idiot. I don't let their bs go unchecked.

When I read that anyone who has someone speak up for them, is weak, and should fight every battle on their own. Here silly little me thought that speaking up against injustice and helping each other were progressive values, as encapsulated in trade unions, the suffragette movement, the abolitionist movement, but I guess I was wrong. We should each be an alpha and manage on our own.

That's the same thing MRAS say about men who speak out against sexism. Some will invoke any and all tactics to justify oppression and maintain privilege and power.

And she isn't the only one on DU who thinks that women shouldn't help each other against misogyny, and that any misogyny we encounter is our own fault for not standing up for ourselves.

who can't handle the trauma of taking a rape prosecution to court, or are so emotionally out of control they are easily baited into irrational and outbursts.

People find all kinds of creative ways to defend misogyny (as well as other forms of bigotry), and sadly some of them are women. The point is to prop up power and privilege and make sure anyone who challenges it is put in their place. Such arguments are essential to the perpetration of exploitation and oppression. They work to impede people from working together for a better society, and that cannot abide.

They don't want to hear from feminists, LGBT, or AA's especially not outspoken ones.
The more we stand up to them the better.
I had a habit of lurking but I will no longer do that racism, homophobia, and sexism should be addressed and never tolerated. If I get a hide so be it. I refuse to remain silent.

I know people keep saying that DU's only purpose is to get Democrats elected, but honestly, considering the quality of the Democrats that have been elected/appointed to government, the US needs a forum where they also work to get progressive candidates standing for the Democratic party. It is the only thing that will save the country, in my eyes. And when you have posters who denigrate the very idea of working together, essentially espousing Ayn Randianism in all seriousness, I wonder what DU is coming to.

Working together for a better society, right?

Thanks and I will keep my head up

Oh boy! I almost want to send it to behind the aegis because BTA will get a kick out of it! That shit is cray cray!

Please pm me this thread!

It was about a book review about slavery.

Also, blacks could own slaves. This shows that any black slave who worked hard and long enough could be prosperous himself too and own slaves. In fact, women could do it as there was one woman in New Orleans who married a white man and when he died, she inherited his slaves, thus becoming a black woman who owned slaves.

And many of the slaves were white.

The whole system had nothing to do with race, as the races had equal opportunity, you see.

Yes, I've had someone argue these points to me. And they don't believe me when I inform them they are the biggest racist idiot on the planet.

Unfortunately they do and they spout their poison and tell me their "black friend" told them this bullshit.
That is something that should not go unchallenged.

If they exist and do appear to agree, it's because you know, let's not upset the crazy person.

But_I bet quite a few are of the fictional sort.

Prince Bandar bin Sultan, friends of both Bushes, former Ambassador to the US and he ran the Syrian war until last spring for the Saudis ( he got shit canned when ISIL went rouge) anyway, his mom was an african woman sold into slavery who the Saudi king took a liking to.

Most slaves were treated like shit.

Everywhere

To be truthful, there are indeed, sadly, a few conservative African-Americans who really have fallen for the old RWNJ line of slaves always having it better than poor white folks, or that slavery was a "blessing&quot instead of the tragedy that it really was), etc.

Although, chances are, the guy who told you this may have just been making it up as he went along. A lot of dumber nutcons do do that.