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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe reason why Z is charged with murder two is
If it can be proved, that it is T begging for his life, either on 911, or by witness and it went on for some time, Z killed T in revenge, for beating his stupid ass.
All that has to be proved is that Trayvon begged for his life. Begging, proves that T was no longer a threat.
Simple as that.
T had a perfect right to drop Z and even kill him, if that one punch did it. As Z had confronted him, after glaring at him from his truck and being made by T, even asking if he was following. Then pursuing on foot. Especially then reaching for his pocket.
I most certainly would have.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)I am sure they can't arrest in a high-profile case like this without being able to prove reasonable cause, no matter what the public thinks, says or feels.
He can defend himself now in safety and with an attorney present, instead of by hearsay and rumors. This is the best outcome for everyone, including him.
Being on the run is no way to live, especially if one has children, too.
MidwestTransplant
(8,015 posts)Quixote1818
(28,968 posts)If they didn't have that audio I don't think anything would have happened and Zimmerman would have been let off.
mista411
(11 posts)I expect that Z's attorney will try to persuade the jury that it was Z crying for help. If the jury finds otherwise, he's done.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)WingDinger
(3,690 posts)Then, analyze it. If the glove doesnt fit, throw the book at him.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)The tape is damning, I doubt it would be allowed
pennylane100
(3,425 posts)It seems clear that Zimmerman was armed and following Martin. The last eleven times he had called 911 to report what he thought was suspicious activity, the people he was checking on were all black. There is no way that can be considered a coincidence. He was racially profiling the people in his neighborhood. When he finally went too far and killed one of them, how is this not a hate crime.
H2O Man
(73,605 posts)one reason only: the prosecution is not seeking the death penalty.
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)then the prosecutor would charge him or her self, as Ms. Corey has done.
By not going to a grand jury, the prosecutor does not risk losing the case before it can get going.
It may also be that the evidence does not support a charge of murder one.
Really, we'll know more later when the prosecutor has to make a filing including the particulars of the charge and the evidence supporting the charge.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Any profiling was due to the fact that there were burglaries in the neighborhood by a suspect who was black.
Zimmerman has a history of having helped a black homeless person in the past, and other history that suggested he wasn't a racist.
That he was armed and following Martin doesn't prove he did so with the intent to kill him. His history of wanting to be a cop suggests he could have planned to apprehend him and turn him over to the police when they arrived.
Better to go with the charges you can prove in court than risk losing. Even more so, given that there is a parallel investigation by the federal government. They can bring their own hate crime charges if they find the evidence they need.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)not just in this case, but it's almost always difficult. And juries don't like to convict someone when the charges seem to exceed the crime so Prosecutors go for what they think they can prove.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)But I understand why they couldn't go there. I'm grateful for Murder Two.
Typical NYC Lib
(182 posts)And I still worry he'll end up doing five years' actual time.
WingDinger
(3,690 posts)reason having to do with playing wannabe cop.
Oh, and I believe that manslaughter of any flavor, in Florida, is a 9.5 year mandatory.
The truly dangerous shit was because poppy had sheltered junior from legal jeaopardy has whole life. Therefore, he was clean as a whistle. Ish.
-..__...
(7,776 posts)will plead down to a lesser charge of manslaughter and avoid a trial that might not
end up with a guilty finding of 2nd degree murder.