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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 10:42 PM Sep 2014

Barbara Boxer re-election run looking unlikely

Source: San Francisco Chronicle

Sen. Barbara Boxer says she has yet to make up her mind about seeking a fifth term in 2016, but there's no shortage of signs that the Democrat may be opting out.

It's not just that she has less than $200,000 in her campaign account, compared with $3.5 million at this stage before her last election fight. Some comments from those who know the 73-year-old senator are also telling.

"She is not running for re-election," said one longtime Democratic fundraiser with deep ties to Boxer, who spoke only on background.

State Democratic Party Chairman John Burton, Boxer's longtime friend and mentor, says she has not informed him of her intentions. But at a Democratic Party fundraiser in San Francisco on Thursday night, co-hosted by Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom and Attorney General Kamala Harris, Burton told the crowd, "When we meet here four years from tonight, we could be looking at one California governor and one U.S. senator."

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/matier-ross/article/Barbara-Boxer-re-election-run-looking-unlikely-5738787.php

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Barbara Boxer re-election run looking unlikely (Original Post) Newsjock Sep 2014 OP
Are people suggesting that she would be replaced by a repug? senseandsensibility Sep 2014 #1
CA is too blue. RandySF Sep 2014 #15
CA was not too blue to pass Prop H8, not too blue to recall Davis and elect Arnold. Twice. Bluenorthwest Sep 2014 #19
Agreed. I've noticed other states passing initives far more liberal than California. C Moon Sep 2014 #25
I think CA is bluer since those days Liberal_in_LA Sep 2014 #45
I believe the Davis recall and Aaanold election were based on fraud. Beginning with the petitions... DesertDiamond Sep 2014 #50
Kashkari could win in 2016. Gormy Cuss Sep 2014 #58
We already have a Republican Senator. Her name is Dianne Feinstein RufusTFirefly Sep 2014 #32
Word. Feinstein has been a DINO since I first encountered her in the 1980s. DesertDiamond Sep 2014 #51
Gavin Newsome should run. ... aggiesal Sep 2014 #35
I hope she does not run. GitRDun Sep 2014 #2
Boxer is one of the best, I hope she runs. bananas Sep 2014 #8
Hopefully the replacement will not be a DINO. n/t GitRDun Sep 2014 #30
Right. New folks. Doesn't matter if they are replacing one of our best senators I guess. Just dumb! HERVEPA Sep 2014 #52
lol nice logic GitRDun Sep 2014 #60
Like Boxer abelenkpe Sep 2014 #3
Word! Brother Buzz Sep 2014 #6
I agree with you completely. MoonchildCA Sep 2014 #20
Boxer should step aside and let someone else run bigwillq Sep 2014 #4
what does this even mean ? people like Boxer are not the same as some others like Schumer JI7 Sep 2014 #11
Nothing to do with age. But 30 years in politics is a career bigwillq Sep 2014 #34
"New and fresh" does not equal "better" /nt demwing Sep 2014 #37
That's not rational - she's one of the best. bananas Sep 2014 #12
She's the best of the best of the best, not 'same old'. byronius Sep 2014 #22
is that ageism I hear? lululu Sep 2014 #29
Not ageism at all. bigwillq Sep 2014 #33
what about electricians? demwing Sep 2014 #38
Politics should never be a "career". former9thward Sep 2014 #42
OK, I'll bite demwing Sep 2014 #44
Oh, I think we would survive. former9thward Sep 2014 #46
The question was not whether the US would survive demwing Sep 2014 #47
I have had three career jobs. former9thward Sep 2014 #48
Good post. bigwillq Sep 2014 #56
More like "Cool, post bro" /nt demwing Sep 2014 #59
Pretty much just politics bigwillq Sep 2014 #55
That's nuts. She's one of our best. Do you even know anything about her? HERVEPA Sep 2014 #53
Yes. I think she's been great. bigwillq Sep 2014 #54
Or not. Consider Diane Feinstein. It's always a crapshoot. HERVEPA Sep 2014 #57
No, I want to keep Boxer. Live and Learn Sep 2014 #5
It is too bad it has not been the other way around a couple of years ago davidpdx Sep 2014 #7
I think she'll be going soon, too. RandySF Sep 2014 #14
Not soon enough davidpdx Sep 2014 #17
the seat if hers if she wants to run, but i can understand her not wanting to run, especially at JI7 Sep 2014 #9
Damn she has to run. She's one of the best senators in WAsh. DC It's DiFi that should retire. n/t Cleita Sep 2014 #10
DC? demwing Sep 2014 #39
Yes, DC. Cleita Sep 2014 #40
Damn, the primary field will be crowded. RandySF Sep 2014 #13
Believe it or not, I would like to see Gavin Newsom elected. RandySF Sep 2014 #16
Get ready because Newsom will be Governor. Kamala Harris should have the Senate seat when Bluenorthwest Sep 2014 #18
Sounds good to me! MoonchildCA Sep 2014 #21
I hope that Boxer grooms Kamala for the seat flamingdem Sep 2014 #24
I hope not. Xithras Sep 2014 #43
Newsom rebounded pretty well from his sex scandal madville Sep 2014 #26
The guy is such an adieu Sep 2014 #28
Why can't DiFi follow her lead? KamaAina Sep 2014 #23
There's a good chance that we're currently enduring DiFi's final term. Xithras Sep 2014 #41
Rather she runs and get rid of adieu Sep 2014 #27
Boxer was iffy about running xxqqqzme Sep 2014 #31
CRAP!!!!! Boxer ROCKS!!! You don't hear much about her, but she has stood up for the people on many DesertDiamond Sep 2014 #36
Not good news....she is definitely one of the better senators... PoutrageFatigue Sep 2014 #49

senseandsensibility

(17,063 posts)
1. Are people suggesting that she would be replaced by a repug?
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 10:47 PM
Sep 2014

I find that hard to believe. Of course, I hope she runs.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
19. CA was not too blue to pass Prop H8, not too blue to recall Davis and elect Arnold. Twice.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 09:29 AM
Sep 2014

Not too blue to produce the career of Ronald Reagan, from pillar to post.
CA is my home state. One of the reasons I left was that so many people there refused to take important action by announcing 'CA is super liberal, I don't really have to put effort into elections because we are all just so groovy that a thing like Prop 8 will never pass, mark my words, your outrage is wasted, CA is too blue to do that!!!!!!'
I no longer buy that line of bull.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
25. Agreed. I've noticed other states passing initives far more liberal than California.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 03:05 PM
Sep 2014

I think CA leans to the left, but it can easily be hoodwinked by right wing lies and personalities (as with the Reagan BS and the Arnold BS).

DesertDiamond

(1,616 posts)
50. I believe the Davis recall and Aaanold election were based on fraud. Beginning with the petitions...
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 04:59 AM
Sep 2014

During the recall campaign, a friend of mine was twice asked to sign liberal-sounding petitions -- as I recall they were for higher pay for teachers and for small class sizes. She read the petitions and they were both Davis recall petitions. When she called the petition workers on it they just shrugged.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
58. Kashkari could win in 2016.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 11:45 AM
Sep 2014

He'll have name recognition after his bid this year and he's not part of the Tom McClintock wing of the GOP. He comes across as a reasonable, likeable guy.
There are probably a few mayors around the state who could rise to the challenge.

The important thing is that the Democrats pay attention and select candidates who won't give the opposition a chance to succeed. We got Arnold as governor because the party abandoned Gray Davis and that left Cruz Bustamante, who had his own problems, as the leading Democratic contender.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
32. We already have a Republican Senator. Her name is Dianne Feinstein
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 07:02 PM
Sep 2014

Don't let that little old "D" after her name fool you. It stands for "decoy."

DesertDiamond

(1,616 posts)
51. Word. Feinstein has been a DINO since I first encountered her in the 1980s.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 04:59 AM
Sep 2014

It's why she lost her run for governor back then.

aggiesal

(8,916 posts)
35. Gavin Newsome should run. ...
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 12:46 AM
Sep 2014

I expected him to run for Princess DiFi's seat,
not Boxer's.
But he has good name presence, and he has a good reputation.

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
2. I hope she does not run.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 11:21 PM
Sep 2014

I make no comment on her Senate work.

I would like to see more new folks in Congress.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
8. Boxer is one of the best, I hope she runs.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 12:47 AM
Sep 2014

It would be a disaster to replace her with a naive inexperienced conservadem DINO.

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
52. Right. New folks. Doesn't matter if they are replacing one of our best senators I guess. Just dumb!
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 07:01 AM
Sep 2014

Brother Buzz

(36,444 posts)
6. Word!
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 12:26 AM
Sep 2014

But if she's ready to retire, all the power to her.

California has a whole gaggle of competent Democrats willing to step up carry on her work.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
4. Boxer should step aside and let someone else run
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 12:17 AM
Sep 2014

We need new blood in Congress instead of the same old, same old that both parties offer year after year.

JI7

(89,251 posts)
11. what does this even mean ? people like Boxer are not the same as some others like Schumer
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 12:50 AM
Sep 2014

i want people like Boxer regardless of age, how long they have been senator etc.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
34. Nothing to do with age. But 30 years in politics is a career
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 07:25 PM
Sep 2014

Let's get someone new and fresh in the seat.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
12. That's not rational - she's one of the best.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 12:54 AM
Sep 2014

Exactly what "same old" do you disagree with?
Do you disagree with her liberal policies?
Do you want to replace her with a more conservative person?
You want to put a coal shill in charge of the Senate Environment and Public Works committee?
You want to turn the California coast into one big oil slick?

byronius

(7,395 posts)
22. She's the best of the best of the best, not 'same old'.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 01:21 PM
Sep 2014

The Ultimate Public Servant. We'll miss her when she's gone.

 

lululu

(301 posts)
29. is that ageism I hear?
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 05:13 PM
Sep 2014

How would you like to be replaced in your job by someone younger, because you're just the same old same old.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
38. what about electricians?
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 01:33 PM
Sep 2014

Better yet, Teachers? Firefighters? Doctors?

Are you against careers in other essential services, or just politics?

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
44. OK, I'll bite
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 03:32 PM
Sep 2014

Last edited Tue Sep 9, 2014, 07:43 PM - Edit history (1)

We hold experience and commitment as honorable traits in every other profession. Why should we desire a churn of political leaders, not merely without regard to their skills and years of experience, but as a direct result of their skills and years of experience?

Should we only have inexperienced people running our country?

former9thward

(32,019 posts)
46. Oh, I think we would survive.
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 05:40 PM
Sep 2014

Being a Senator or House member -- or President --- is not that tough. We limit President to two terms -- if this precious "experience" was so important why not have lifetime Presidents? The fact is that in a nation of 315 million we have hundreds of thousands of very smart and skilled people who could easily handle the 536 jobs of Senators, House members and President.


In 1796 Washington decided not to run for a third presidential term. he wrote George Washington believed it important that he leave the office of President alive so it would not be seen as a lifetime position. He wanted no part of a kingship or monarchy. Leaving the office of President voluntarily was probably one of the most profound decisions Washington made to establish transition and show the new found country was more important than ONE man. He chose not to run for a third term. He did not want to defeat his ideal of a president elected by the people- he did not want to encourage the possibility of anything like a king or dictator or president for life as happened so often in countries who later tried to set up a constitutional government similar to that of the US.

The country survived Washington leaving. It will survive anyone else leaving also.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
47. The question was not whether the US would survive
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 08:13 PM
Sep 2014

of course we could survive. No one even hinted otherwise. Neither was the question whether we should have lifetime Presidents.

Again, no one even remotely suggested such a thing

My questions were whether you apply that same logic to all professions (and if not, why?), and why you think a candidate with experience and expertise might be of lesser value than a candidate with a fresh face.

Both question remain unanswered. You don't have to answer, but I am genuinely interested, so please do.

former9thward

(32,019 posts)
48. I have had three career jobs.
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 08:34 PM
Sep 2014

One as a union official. One as a government labor investigator. One as an attorney. In all three cases people who had decades in those jobs were pretty much worthless. They were burnt out and just waiting for their pension to kick in. You may be ok with that but I don't think it is anyway to run a country.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
55. Pretty much just politics
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 11:24 AM
Sep 2014

We will do just fine without Boxer or Sanders or Warren. All have been mostly great public servants, but there will be someone else that will come along that will do just as well.

Find me a good electrician and I'll keep him or her for life.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
54. Yes. I think she's been great.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 11:23 AM
Sep 2014

But in Cali, we could probably get someone else of her same caliber.

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
57. Or not. Consider Diane Feinstein. It's always a crapshoot.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 11:41 AM
Sep 2014

In any case, since she's likely not running again, we'll find out.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
7. It is too bad it has not been the other way around a couple of years ago
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 12:26 AM
Sep 2014

Feinstein is the one we need to get rid of, not Boxer. If Boxer wants to retire though, I respect that. She's been there a long time and maybe she wants to do something different.

I can only hope that Feinstein decides to retire in 2018. The flip side though of them both retiring so close together is that California will end up with both Senators at the bottom of seniority list.

JI7

(89,251 posts)
9. the seat if hers if she wants to run, but i can understand her not wanting to run, especially at
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 12:49 AM
Sep 2014

that age. there are many other things in life she might prefer to do.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
10. Damn she has to run. She's one of the best senators in WAsh. DC It's DiFi that should retire. n/t
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 12:50 AM
Sep 2014

Last edited Tue Sep 9, 2014, 01:40 PM - Edit history (1)

RandySF

(58,899 posts)
13. Damn, the primary field will be crowded.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 03:52 AM
Sep 2014

Boxer and Feinstein got elected together in 1992 and I recall the Democratic field for the retiring Alan Crantson's seat was quite large. I expect the same this time around if she does retire. I'll hate to see her go, but I suspect she wants to enjoy her grandchildren while she is still robust.

RandySF

(58,899 posts)
16. Believe it or not, I would like to see Gavin Newsom elected.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 03:57 AM
Sep 2014

As an executive, he cannot run a lunch wagon effectively. But he is bright and, when he chooses to be, hard working. He would be an effective advocate for LGBT rights as well as clean technology. Most importantly, it keeps him busy and out of the Governor's Office.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
18. Get ready because Newsom will be Governor. Kamala Harris should have the Senate seat when
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 09:21 AM
Sep 2014

Barbara exists. And that is what will happen.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
43. I hope not.
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 02:06 PM
Sep 2014

Newsom was groomed by DiFi and shares many of her problematic political positions. While he's a social libertarian, he's also quite conservative and pro-Wall Street when it comes to business and economic issues. Additionally, he fought hard to eliminate welfare and support benefits for homeless people in San Francisco, and succeeded in eliminating all cash benefits for them. While he later declared the program a "success" after the number of homeless declined, an independent investigation by Stanford showed that it had simply chased homeless people out of San Francisco and into surrounding cities.

Newsom has his positives, and there are certain roles that I support him in, but I don't ever want to see him as our governor.

madville

(7,412 posts)
26. Newsom rebounded pretty well from his sex scandal
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 03:37 PM
Sep 2014

He's got a shot at Governor or Senator at this point, we'll see what the party let's him do.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
41. There's a good chance that we're currently enduring DiFi's final term.
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 01:54 PM
Sep 2014

DiFi is 81 years old, and her current term will end in 2018 when she is 85. Running again would put her in office until she's 91 years old, and there have been a number of comments made by those around her suggesting that she's not interested in staying in office that long. Prior to the last election, there were some comments that hinted at it being her final run, and she's made comments since suggesting that she's planning an exit. During a conversation about changing the filibuster rules last year, for example, she said that she wanted to "get things done for the five years I have left" in the Senate. While she hasn't come right out and said it, her tone and comments strongly suggest a 2018 exit.

2018 is still pretty far out, so it's not a surprise that she hasn't confirmed anything one way or the other, but I expect that we'll hear something in 2016 or so. She won't announce now, because she doesn't want to undermine her current power in the Senate, but she won't wait too long because she'll want to give other Democrats a chance to establish themselves as viable replacements in the public mind. 2016 seems like a safe bet.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
31. Boxer was iffy about running
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 06:02 PM
Sep 2014

in '10. I was pleased but surprised when she decided to run. She is 74 now. The amount of time and energy it takes to run for office may not be worth it in 2 years. I ran for state assembly and it consumed my life for 4 months.

Feinstein had no business running in '12. We have a number of good progressive/liberal Democrats in state government and in Congress now - Debra Bowen, Jackie Speier, John Chiang, to name a few. I would love to see Speier in the Senate.

DesertDiamond

(1,616 posts)
36. CRAP!!!!! Boxer ROCKS!!! You don't hear much about her, but she has stood up for the people on many
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 10:18 AM
Sep 2014

occasions. I want her to run again!! Sending daimoku for her to get those funds!!!

 

PoutrageFatigue

(416 posts)
49. Not good news....she is definitely one of the better senators...
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 08:36 PM
Sep 2014

...if we can get Gavin Newsome as her replacement that'd be fine.... but I'd rather have her stay...

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