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Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 11:16 PM Sep 2014

Michael Brown Was Shot While His Hands Were Up, New Witness Confirms

Michael Brown Was Shot While His Hands Were Up, New Witness Confirms
By karoli September 6, 2014 7:52 pm

A new witness to the Michael Brown shooting has spoken to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. His account confirms what other witnesses have said, with a few extra details.

Yet another witness has come forward in the Michael Brown shooting, telling a very similar account to the other four witnesses who have spoken publicly. He is one of the two workers pictured above. That photo was posted to Instagram just after the shooting.

St. Louis Post-Dispatch has the story:


The co-worker told KTVI that Brown promised to come back and resume their conversation; Brown walked away, and the workers returned to their job.

About a half-hour later, the worker heard a gunshot. Then he saw Brown running away from a police car. Wilson trailed about 10 to 15 feet behind, gun in hand. About 90 feet away from the car, the worker said, Wilson fired another shot at Brown, whose back was turned.

The worker said Brown stumbled and then stopped, put his hands up, turned around and said, “OK, OK, OK, OK, OK.” He said he told investigators from the St. Louis County police and the FBI that because of the stumble, it seemed to him that Brown had been wounded.

Cont'd

More:
http://crooksandliars.com/2014/09/michael-brown-was-shot-while-his-hands
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Michael Brown Was Shot While His Hands Were Up, New Witness Confirms (Original Post) Judi Lynn Sep 2014 OP
Darren Wilson didn't give a shit. Cha Sep 2014 #1
Agreed. CakeGrrl Sep 2014 #13
Kick. Agschmid Sep 2014 #2
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #3
All rational people know this malaise Sep 2014 #4
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #5
I wonder when the vicious discrediting of the witness will commence? notadmblnd Sep 2014 #6
Legalized Human Hunting LynneSin Sep 2014 #7
What scares me Aerows Sep 2014 #24
Thanks for the thread. Let's hope this shooting won't be swept under the rug or 'vindicated' sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #8
Racist murdering pigs riqster Sep 2014 #9
Ohhh, this explains it... TheVisitor Sep 2014 #11
Interesting how many of my non-DU friends looked for another explanation. riqster Sep 2014 #14
poice murdering an innocent man samsingh Sep 2014 #10
They don't consider blacks to be "men".... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #15
Murdered. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #12
+1 JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #17
Autopsy HoustonDave Sep 2014 #16
no CatWoman Sep 2014 #18
No...one of the people who ran the autopsy explicitly stated that one wound alcibiades_mystery Sep 2014 #19
Articles do not support HoustonDave Sep 2014 #21
you first CatWoman Sep 2014 #22
Dr. Baden's coinvestigator - Shawn Parcells - went on Anderson Cooper and Lawrence O'Donnell and alcibiades_mystery Sep 2014 #23
Define 'front'? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #27
Compliance does not save you from police violence Man from Pickens Sep 2014 #20
More damning testimony. aikoaiko Sep 2014 #25
Oh crap this witness is a white guy underpants Sep 2014 #26

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
13. Agreed.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 05:17 PM
Sep 2014

I wonder how much more corroboration the DOJ has?

I sure hope they were able to recover Wilson's social media accounts. Sounds like he was a racist jerk like others whose posts have surfaced these last few weeks - otherwise, the Ferguson PD wouldn't have spotted him the head start to make everything disappear.

Murderer.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
7. Legalized Human Hunting
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 11:12 AM
Sep 2014

Seriously in 5 years Americans will soon be allowed to hunt and bag their own human as long as they can come up with some justification as to why they shot the person like the person they shot was 'Black while walking' or use the reliable 'Stand your ground' excuse.



And for those reading this I hope you sense the in what I have written

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
24. What scares me
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 04:38 PM
Sep 2014

Is that it probably isn't as much sarcasm as you think.

90% of police officers do not live in the communities that they police. It didn't use to be that way. It's far easier to shoot a stranger than the person you see walking their dog every morning.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
8. Thanks for the thread. Let's hope this shooting won't be swept under the rug or 'vindicated'
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 11:16 AM
Sep 2014

as they usually are.

TheVisitor

(173 posts)
11. Ohhh, this explains it...
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 05:11 PM
Sep 2014

"Culhane was the breakout star of her high school field hockey team and currently attends Amherst College in Massachusetts."

She is an athlete. Naturally, that gives her the utmost consideration. Not to mention: the BMW.

Oh right, and of course... she's white!

riqster

(13,986 posts)
14. Interesting how many of my non-DU friends looked for another explanation.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 08:30 PM
Sep 2014

Like, she was a female, had red hair, and so on. Anything BUT being white. Sheesh.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
15. They don't consider blacks to be "men"....
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 01:24 AM
Sep 2014

They consider them to be sub-human primitives.

If they get out of line they need to be put down like a mad dog. This keeps the others in line. Especially if you parade their corpse in front of the others.

HoustonDave

(60 posts)
16. Autopsy
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 12:30 PM
Sep 2014

Didn't the autopsy commissioned by the Brown family determine that all entry wounds were in the front?

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
19. No...one of the people who ran the autopsy explicitly stated that one wound
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 02:06 PM
Sep 2014

The wound on his forearm, to be precise, could have come from behind.

HoustonDave

(60 posts)
21. Articles do not support
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 03:07 PM
Sep 2014

Just ran through articles on the Baden/Parcell autopsy in the NY Times, Washington Post, CNN, Politico (which echoed NYT) and Wall Street Journal - ALL say the private autopsy report shows that all entry wounds were in the front. One says Dr. Baden said that one or more bullets apparently exited and re-entered, but none say anything about entry wounds from the rear. Cite your sources please?

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
23. Dr. Baden's coinvestigator - Shawn Parcells - went on Anderson Cooper and Lawrence O'Donnell and
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 04:23 PM
Sep 2014

said so with his own mouth. The co-conductor of the autopsy. Any newspaper who stated unequivocally that no shot could have hit Brown from behind was mistaken.

PARCELLS: Well, during our autopsy examination, we found one of the gunshot wounds in this part of the arm. So anatomically speaking, we say that's the medial aspect. And as I pointed out this morning, the arm is a very movable part of your body. So the shot could have come from the front. If he's putting his hand up, or if he's raising his hands like this, but at the same when we put our arms down and we're walking along like this, as if he's walking away from the officer that shot could have come from the back to the front.
(September 18 interview with Shawn Parcells on Anderson Cooper.)

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1408/18/acd.01.html

O`DONNELL: Joining me now is Shawn Parcells. He was the pathologist
assistant who worked with Dr. Michael Baden on the autopsy whose
preliminary results were revealed today.

Shawn Parcells, there are a lot of people out there tonight saying, OK,
these preliminary findings are out and we now have conclusive proof that he
was not shot from behind, that he was -- that Michael Brown was facing the
officer for every one of the shoots fired.

What would you say to that?

PARCELLS: Our preliminary results agree with that, other than as I pointed
out at the press conference, this shot to the right forearm could have come
from the back as he`s walking away
. But it also could have come from the
front direction if he`s put his hands up, put his hands up in a defensive
position, or even if he`s running at the officer, you can still have that
part of your arm exposed. And that`s why it`s very important that we
understand the events that occurred and be able to piece those together and
look at further evidence, which at this time Dr. Baden and I have not been
able to do.


http://www.nbcnews.com/id/55902805/ns/msnbc/t/last-word-lawrence-odonnell-monday-august-th/#.VA9g_fldXOM

That definitive enough for you??????

Listen, even the police admit that Wilson shot at brown as he was fleeing, and that's in the New York Times:

As Officer Wilson got out of his car, the men were running away. The officer fired his weapon but did not hit anyone, according to law enforcement officials.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/20/us/shooting-accounts-differ-as-holder-schedules-visit.html?_r=0

Here's the point: you're wrong. One of the shots could have come from behind, and even the cops admit Wilson shot at Brown as he was fleeing. You're wrong.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
27. Define 'front'?
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 09:21 AM
Sep 2014

If you're running away, the underside of your arms are facing behind you. When you turn around with your hands/arms up, the underside of your arms face forward. So shots to the arms (and iirc, something like 3 or so shots hit the one arm) could come from 'the 'front' from either the front or rear, depending upon the positioning of your arms at the time.

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
20. Compliance does not save you from police violence
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 02:33 PM
Sep 2014

If "officer safety" is the reason for all this wanton violence by cops, perhaps they should consider the risks involved when surrendering to cops can get you murdered anyway. How is the next guy going to react? Surrender and be murdered? Or fight to the last, taking out as many cops as you can along the way?

It's like they learned absolutely nothing from the Chris Dorner incident.

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
25. More damning testimony.
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 08:32 AM
Sep 2014


It will probably help that he is white and not from the community (as sad a commentary that it is).

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