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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 04:06 AM Sep 2014

Zunes: The U.S. and ISIS

http://www.nationofchange.org/us-and-isis-1410095745

Ironically, however, President Obama has been getting the most high-profile criticism from those wishing he had been more aggressive with projecting American military power. For example, in a well publicized interview in The Atlantic, his former secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, appeared to blame the rise of ISIS on Obama's failure to sufficiently arm and support the so-called moderate rebels of the Free Syrian Army.

Such a charge defies logic, however. The Free Syrian Army consists of literally hundreds of separate militia without a central command, largely composed of relatively inexperienced fighters, who would have been no match for the well-armed, experienced, disciplined fighters of ISIS, regardless of the amount of weapons the U.S. might have provided. In fact, it was an awareness of ISIS's potential dominance of the Syrian rebel movement, which served as an important reason why the Obama administration didn't go beyond the relatively limited arming and training of a few small groups affiliated with the Free Syrian Army.

Indeed, part of ISIS's military prowess comes from weapons they captured from overrunning FSA positions and from their ranks supplemented by FSA fighters who, in the course of the three-year battle with Assad's regimes, became radicalized and switched sides.

In any case, ISIS has found an even stronger foothold in Iraq, a direct consequence of the U.S. invasion and occupation. In a profile of ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, a one-time moderate Sufi turned Salafist extremist, the New York Times observed, "At every turn, Mr. Baghdadi's rise has been shaped by the United States' involvement in Iraq -- most of the political changes that fueled his fight, or led to his promotion, were born directly from some American action."
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Zunes: The U.S. and ISIS (Original Post) eridani Sep 2014 OP
Had President Obama fallen into the Syrian trap and overthrown Assad, daschess1987 Sep 2014 #1
He is a steady hand on the tiller, but-- eridani Sep 2014 #2

daschess1987

(192 posts)
1. Had President Obama fallen into the Syrian trap and overthrown Assad,
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 04:40 AM
Sep 2014

there is no doubt that IS would control all of Syria and its weapons--including aircraft. Did anyone else notice that Baghdadi did not lead IS into Iraq until it was clear that we were not going to destroy Syria's current government? The Iraqi border was wide open to them anytime, but their haul in Syria could have been much worse. They would have been all over it had we toppled their current government. I believe in our president's ability to strategically defeat this madman tactician (and those who follow him).

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