There are just too many incentives for these bullies to harass people!

Police were stopping expensive cars driving between Florida to Texas.

They would only pick cars that were owned by the drivers and not rentals, else the rental company might sue to reclaim the vehicle. the cars chosen were from states hundreds of miles away, to make it even harder for the owners to defend themselves.

The vehicles were stopped for 'crossing over the line' and then searched, which turned up drugs.

The drivers were given the option, willfully abandon the vehicle or be arrested, convicted, and the vehicle seized anyway.

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The Parish Judge, Sheriff, and Arresting officer(s) would then split the proceeds of the car sale. The judge and sheriff would get the most, the officer would get 10-20% of the value.

20/20 rigged a Lincoln Town Car with cameras on the gages (which were certified), the interior of the vehicle, the exterior front and rear, to show the police pulling them over and whether or not they crossed the line. Sure enough, the passed two troopers and were pulled over and told they crossed over the line (when video showed the producer maintained his lane and speed the whole time). They did not make him exit the vehicle and eventually let him go. Perhaps, they saw one of the cameras.

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All vehicle stops were incentivized and the judges, sheriffs, and arresting officers were some of the wealthiest people in those parishes.

So does the OP.

And there have been a lot of towns in East Texas doing this for years and years...

http://stopthedrugwar.org/speakeasy/2009/oct/07/asset_forfeiture_texas_da_seeks

http://www.crimelibrary.com/gangsters_outlaws/cops_others/tom_coleman/index.html

But the state and Sheriff Depts. have trolled the interstate for money for a few years now.
The stretch of 1-10 between Ala. and Texas is notorious for highway robbery by police plus for smuggling.

I really do expect drug smugglers to use drones for spotting cops, and maybe even for delivery.

has been notorious for highway robbery by police for decades. I remember hearing about it in the 1980's.

n/t

What was he referring to ?????

and they will do nothing about it. Cops watching cops, yea, that will work. (If anyone can tell me where to find the sarcasm smiley I'll put it here).

They are labelled b (for Bold), i (italic), excerpt, blockquote, close tags, and--lo & behold--smilies.

Click on Smilies & they will pop up for you to select the ones you want.

Just trying out my new sarcasm button. May come in handy!

you can get the same result by putting : sarcasm : in the post. (Remove the spaces between the word and the colons)

The buttons just insert the text into your post. So if you don't want to find the right button, you can type the text yourself.

Is it just me, or does that sound way too much like a Klan inspired term?

Found the term in footnote 51 of the book 'Klansville, U.S.A: The Rise and Fall of the Civil Rights-era Ku Klux Klan'
By David Cunningham

http://books.google.com/books?id=fBQhe8jcXZEC&pg=PA252&lpg=PA252&dq=KKK+royal+knight&source=bl&ots=7DJcQPLolb&sig=YqmHiAVn1bSzE0mIKoJA0wkiKfQ&hl=en&sa=X&ei=vdMNVK-bItWWgwT77IGABQ&ved=0CC8Q6AEwBA

I would be interested in a break down of whose property is being taken. I suspect (with absolutely no evidence) that it is not being done to all groups in an evenly proportional manner.

Wasn't a Knight a person who valued integrity and honor?

organizations everywhere-steal the good term and use it for evil. I remember when republicans started doing that regularly with many congressional bill titles-where the language of the bill proposed the exact opposite of what the title suggested.

I always thought they sounded like high-ranking thugs/soldiers for feudal warlords. I feel like I've read that the whole honesty and chivalry thing isn't historically accurate, that it's more of something we attribute to them now. I could be entirely off base about this though. Hopefully we have a medevial scholar here.

but I am an historian (if that means anything!).

The "codes" of honor and chivalry were really something that emerged toward the end of the Crusades - it didn't have much to do with being nice or even honest; just being true to the Church, one's lord, one's country, and, finally - women. I believe they were popularized as a way of taming men who had - to that point - spent their lives fighting on battlefields.

There were some stand-out knights that really did live their lives according to those precepts; my personal favorite was William Marshall.

Most of them, I suspect were rather hit and miss with the whole plan.

Thanks for posting! Looks like I was mistaken

You said pretty much what I said!

Even when a local police department brings in the Federal police, for example in some counties for marijuana busts, they split all the loot. This only encourages local police to cash hunt, stop and frisk in NYC included.

I suggest a National holding of ALL cash and assets seized, and let states ask for grants for specific purpose. Take the cash cow away.

How long will it be until some citizens exercising their Second Amendment rights decide to stand their ground against armed robbers? At some point, the badge will no longer serve as a free pass to commit armed robbery.

especially if it is known they will be penalized if the cameras are shut off for any reason, except bathroom brakes.

They need to be camera's that the officer can't shut off, or remove.

Because they could say they forgot to turn the camera back on afterwards. Welcome aboard!

regarding the needed bathroom break. 10 minutes later, the officer would then receive an automated message from dispatch reminding them to turn the camera back on.

Problem solved.

that's not going to the bathroom.

will be live streaming and have GPS, it makes it more difficult for an officer to circumvent their use in non bathroom situations. Especially if the municipality fires officers for turning them off and holds them personally liable for any lawsuit that arises from an unrecorded incident.

The cameras should stay rolling at all times during their shifts.

sounds that should be private, and could slow down the officer's response time if he has to redress. But maybe someone has a good solution neither of us have thought of.

Nothing should be expected to be private. Breaks OK but while working, it's not your time.

I know how bad that sounds and I know I am not fun to work for in that regard. But I follow that and believe that.

No one would even review the audio and/or video unless an incident occured. Even if there were some sort of outhouse massacre, the need to hold out-of-control police responsible for their actions outweighs the importance of a possible fart being recorded.

Thanks for more information on this. Here's the link I posted to another Washington Post article. Has a Real News report too that's pretty interesting

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2014/09/06/stop-and-seize/?hpid=z2&Post+generic=%3Ftid%3Dsm_twitter_washingtonpost

who are supposed to serve and protect. This is beyond fucked up….

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and the klan reference, royal knight, does NOT surprise me. This is really 'highway robbery', modern era. Now I would like to know the gender and racial breakdown.

There is discussion of profiling in the WaPo article I linked to.

not proof reading well today. sloppy of me. thanks for the link.

. . . indeed!

So it's come to this, eh?

All those who still think we have a Constitution-respecting class-blind democracy raise their hands . . .

Contractors stealing from the public for a cut. Reminds me of the Mafia.

like they needed another.

your DU name brought Mr. Dixie to a screeching silence in the middle of sentence.....

town on the southern Oregon coast.

It's obscuring the fact that many of its wearers shouldn't be.

Unless you are given an official receipt for every cent confiscated, call 911 and report a robbery if this happens. Give the cop car's license plate and its location and direction of travel when last seen. Describe the perps in as much detail as you can while it's fresh in your mind. (for example: 50's, 5 foot whatever, overweight (230lbs?), white, mustache, Dark blue shirt, dark blue pants with a red stripe, White car with a blue stripe, License plate ######, last seen northbound on hwy ??).

911 calls are all recorded, and are very difficult to erase/coverup.

and how much goes into the officers 'benevolent fund' ?

It sounds like the feds need to go over each year's Black Knight's patrol records to find out if "under 35 and driving nice car" with "nonwhite" thrown in there most times was the probable cause that led to the forfeiture.

This is why I live where there is no police department only a little county cops who seldom are around. No money to be made here. The cops don't need me and they expect the same.

They were doing that stuff, seizing land, cars and money the dropping the charges so you never went to trial and had to fight to get money or items back. We voted in a change to that in order for them to keep it now they have to charge you with a crime and you have to be found guilty before they can do anything with the seized items and they must return all of it if found not guilty.

the common sense thing to do.... except there's no common or sense. It has to be spelled out for them by law starting with A... then B... then C... etc. and of course there's no such thing as ethics that just may give a clue as to what is civilized.

Seize a property or cash and then not prosecute the charge which forced you to hire an attorney and go through civil courts to attempt to get your property returned. Ina a few cases they had seized actual real estate and sold it..

where this happened? I'm an Oregonian from birth though I've lived elsewhere for some years. I know of certain counties where I would think twice before driving through and others where I wouldn't think much about. Just wondering.

By particular counties but here is general info on it

http://www.ij.org/asset-forfeiture-report-oregon

isn't that a key component of our system of jurisprudence?

Now you know why all the smart people are getting the fuck out of Tennessee. Even if they're only shaking down and robbing out-of-staters, this is a sin and a crime.

Everyone involved in this highway robbery should hide themselves in shame.

How do you live with yourself just blatantly stealing people's money?

How is the legal tender of our nation an illegal, confiscatable offense?

FUCK YOU ANY COP WHO DOES THIS.

The world will remember you as greedy, gangbanging THUG FUCKS who destroyed our constitution and robbed people blind for your own gain.



The cop at the end says "WHERE"S THE MONEY?" What a complete piece of human refuse.

Thanks for the thread, dixiegrrrrl.

salary from their robberies. And then, when the money dries up, they will have no wages.

armed and trained gang with no boundaries and no authority whatsoever. That's the idea isn't it?

Not saying there aren't other things going on at the website that would attract visitors but it certainly raises eyebrows.

The sooner the better

friends. nt

the privileged class and their property. In effect, the are the jackboot security police for the financial upper class.

for anything or they knock of my door for some reason. And God help your dog if it happens to come in contact with any policeman in your neighborhood. Their policy is to shoot on site any pet they see.

(how come there are "old codgers" but not "old codgeresses"?, I wonder.)

Got me, personally I think it might be detrimental to my health to use that word in reference to any elderly lady that or "old fartess" might be bad also..LOL

Normally, people don't carry large amounts of cash around. Why would a person have 10 or 20 thousand dollars on them? The cops are justified in asking that question. All you need to do is show where the money came from, and they give it back. You don't need to go through the "high cost of legal assistance", that's bullshit. The reason only one in six is challenged is because the money is meant for something illeage, mostly drugs, and they cannot produce a document shoeing where the money came from.
(I have family who works for state police at Logan airport)

I recall a story about two men that were going to buy a car and were going to pay in cash. In the WaPo article it was a man who was going to buy a business and another that was going to buy land and a trailer for their church.

Not to mention that lots of people don't have bank accounts. If you worked a legit job, cashed the checks, and saved the money at home--well there wouldn't be a paper trail to prove it's legit. And these people aren't going to have the resources to legally challenge the police especially when the process is drawn out.

Also consider that the article cites a messy car, duct tape, and air fresheners as some of the signs that a car is suspicious. Or basically police looking for a reason to steal from people that they believe won't have the resources and/or time to fight back.

Here's the part of the series I'm referring to:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2014/09/06/stop-and-seize/

Another good read:
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/08/12/taken

"If you make it hard for us to find & steal your money your really gonna get it!"