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Benedict Cumberbatch: America needs a female President, then a gay one (Original Post) shenmue Sep 2014 OP
Why not a lesbian--knock 'em both out in one fell swoop justiceischeap Sep 2014 #1
I love her Aerows Sep 2014 #5
The reichwingers would physically explode. hifiguy Sep 2014 #2
How about a lesbian president who is married.. SummerSnow Sep 2014 #3
I'm on board with that! Aerows Sep 2014 #6
If you thought they freaked out over DeBlasio... nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #25
I can't wait to cast my vote for an African American, lesbian atheist. nt conservaphobe Sep 2014 #4
That will kill them.lol SummerSnow Sep 2014 #7
With a Latino thrown in for good measure madokie Sep 2014 #8
Momma Rosa is fabulous! northoftheborder Sep 2014 #11
Anything's better than the current "Communist Nazi Liberation Theology Islamist". nt Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2014 #9
When can we have an atheist President? tridim Sep 2014 #10
When our military stops forcing people to swear to god marlakay Sep 2014 #15
I guarantee there have been atheists Codeine Sep 2014 #17
Oh, I live for the day we see an athiest/agnostic/Unitarian/Secular Humanist, etc. smirkymonkey Sep 2014 #23
We've had some Unitarian Presidents. LuvNewcastle Sep 2014 #31
Yes, in our early times. Do you think we will ever see them again? smirkymonkey Sep 2014 #32
I hope so too. LuvNewcastle Sep 2014 #35
That would take another 200 years Reter Sep 2014 #29
Why not a qualified candidate without judging based on gender, sexuality, color, ethnicity.... NightWatcher Sep 2014 #12
Was Obama chosen as the candidate as a token? Gormy Cuss Sep 2014 #18
Cumberbatch said we need to pick a female then an LGBT person NightWatcher Sep 2014 #20
Affirmative action is partly based on the assumption that there are qualified candidates nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #26
He said that's what we need, not that we should do it without regard to qualifications Gormy Cuss Sep 2014 #30
No shit Sherlock Blue Owl Sep 2014 #13
Clever. DavidDvorkin Sep 2014 #19
And in that order! Hillary then me! William769 Sep 2014 #14
America needs a COMPETENT President derby378 Sep 2014 #16
Of course. But the other aspects would be a nice bonus, at least. nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #27
This Cumberbitch agrees! Coventina Sep 2014 #21
we probably already had a gay one librechik Sep 2014 #22
Cute, and has a brain too! smirkymonkey Sep 2014 #24
We just need a good one. n/t tazkcmo Sep 2014 #28
Yeah, I guess BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #33
Well, if an ACTOR thinks so, I guess it's decided... brooklynite Sep 2014 #34
While it would be nice, especially really good ones.... Behind the Aegis Sep 2014 #36
I just want a very smart President who isn't on the side of big corporations Marrah_G Sep 2014 #37

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
3. How about a lesbian president who is married..
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 04:07 PM
Sep 2014

to a black woman.That will really make their head explodes.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
8. With a Latino thrown in for good measure
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 04:13 PM
Sep 2014

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Give me one of the Castro brothers (Julian, Joaquin) and I'll get off my old ass and canvas the neighborhood like its never been done before.
This old lilly white ass man would love to see Momma Rosa in the Whitehouse

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marlakay

(11,473 posts)
15. When our military stops forcing people to swear to god
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 07:04 PM
Sep 2014

Our country is slowly becoming more and more of a theocracy.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
17. I guarantee there have been atheists
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 07:07 PM
Sep 2014

in the White House, but nobody would ever have copped to it.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
23. Oh, I live for the day we see an athiest/agnostic/Unitarian/Secular Humanist, etc.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 09:02 PM
Sep 2014

President. I can dream, can't I?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
32. Yes, in our early times. Do you think we will ever see them again?
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 09:59 PM
Sep 2014

I really hope so. I think this country would be a much better place.

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
35. I hope so too.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 10:36 PM
Sep 2014

I think we will. I think the pendulum is swinging away from the religious right for good. People have had it with the hypocrisy. Really, the only reason they had any problem in the first place is because of the coalition Reagan built when he went in to office, and the GOP continued to court them after that. Now they're represented by people like Cruz and Palin, and those two are seen in a very negative light by most sane Americans. When that era has fully passed, I think we'll see more candidates who are free-thinkers.

I think a free-thinker and/ or a Unitarian would represent the country well and would work to safeguard everyone's religious rights as well as the rights of those with no religion. We probably won't have an agnostic or atheist President anytime soon, but I think it's possible.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
29. That would take another 200 years
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 09:24 PM
Sep 2014

Gotta be realistic. Only one open atheist has ever been elected to Congress in 238 years.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
12. Why not a qualified candidate without judging based on gender, sexuality, color, ethnicity....
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 04:49 PM
Sep 2014

Don't be in such a hurry to find tokens to hold the office. It'd be easier to win if we would just run qualified candidates. If they happen to be a woman or gay or whatever, sure, but the main focus should be on quality, not on filling some idea of what we should have in office instead of whom we should have in office.

I'm sure that by suggesting we have a fit candidate instead of a candidate who is female or gay, or.... that I will be labeled as all kind of ____ists. I'm not saying that a woman could not be President (I assume the next one will be and am cool with that), I just don't want that to be the main consideration for fitness for an office.

(I'm sure I'll be self-deleting when the flames start shooting)

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
18. Was Obama chosen as the candidate as a token?
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 07:08 PM
Sep 2014

He certainly wasn't the most qualified candidate in the pack. If he wasn't a token, why assume that a woman or LGBT candidate would be chosen via tokenism?

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
20. Cumberbatch said we need to pick a female then an LGBT person
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 07:33 PM
Sep 2014

Picking someone strictly based on those two criteria is just as wrong as not picking someone for a job because of those two reasons. We should work to find the most qualified person for the job, regardless of gender, race... If they are the most qualified and happen to be _______, great. If the most qualified person happened to be a white dude, he shouldn't be excluded from consideration because he does not happen to be a female or LGBT.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
26. Affirmative action is partly based on the assumption that there are qualified candidates
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 09:18 PM
Sep 2014

in every racial, gender, etc. group, and that it's simply a matter of going out and finding them.

"If the most qualified person happened to be a white dude, he shouldn't be excluded from consideration."

I totally agree with this. But it doesn't contradict the point.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
30. He said that's what we need, not that we should do it without regard to qualifications
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 09:32 PM
Sep 2014

and public support. We have qualified candidates with one or both of those attributes. It's just a matter of whether they are candidates who stand a chance of winning. Many thought that Obama had no chance because of race. Maybe, just maybe, the country is still willing to think outside of the 'straight white male' box.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
16. America needs a COMPETENT President
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 07:05 PM
Sep 2014

And I don't care if she's a left-handed bisexual Polynesian, as long as she can govern effectively, shore up our infrastructure, improve our diplomatic standing around the world, and help those who need jobs find jobs. Oh yes, and tackle some of the problems with Obamacare.

BlindTiresias

(1,563 posts)
33. Yeah, I guess
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 10:03 PM
Sep 2014

It would at least demonstrate it doesn't matter who is at the helm if the inertia of the ship is on the wrong course.

Behind the Aegis

(53,959 posts)
36. While it would be nice, especially really good ones....
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 12:41 AM
Sep 2014

...I'll be long dead as will my nephew's grandchildren (he's 7) before we see an openly gay president. I am not cynical, I am completely pessimistic. A female is more likely, but still a long shot. VP maybe. Ms. Clinton might be able to pull it off, but I don't know. There are too many homophobic liberals to allow for an openly gay president.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
37. I just want a very smart President who isn't on the side of big corporations
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 02:36 AM
Sep 2014

I don't care about gender, sexuality, race or if they once smoked pot.

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