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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 08:00 PM Sep 2014

Why is libertarian "Uber Corp" sponsoring San Francisco’s giant police militarization conference?

Last edited Mon Sep 8, 2014, 10:25 PM - Edit history (1)

Why is “libertarian” Uber sponsoring San Francisco’s giant police militarization conference?

By Paul Carr
On September 4, 2014

Well, this is a little weird.

Since Ferguson, the debate has become significantly louder around the over-militarization of America’s police officers. Leading that charge has been the libertarian movement, in particular Radley Balko whose book “The Rise of the Warrior Cop” was a call to — uh — arms for those who are convinced that the Fish and Wildlife Service is soon going to start operating like Seal Team Six.


That last line wasn’t facetious, by the way. Balko literally claimed in the Wall Street Journal that the Department of Education and the Fish and Wildlife Service operate their own SWAT teams. Unfortunately for the libertarians who have embraced Balko as their spokesperson, the claims weren’t true. In fact, the entire piece lead to what might be the longest correction the Journal has ever had to add to the end of a book promoting column:

The Consumer Products Safety Commission does not have a SWAT team. An earlier version of this article incorrectly said that it does. Also, the U.S. Department of Education and the Fish and Wildlife Service have law-enforcement divisions, but the agencies say they don’t receive tactical or military training and don’t operate as SWAT teams. An earlier version of this essay incorrectly said that the agencies have SWAT teams. In addition, the earlier version incorrectly described the execution of two search warrants. In the first case, the FWS says that its officers’ weapons weren’t drawn when it searched a Gibson Guitar factory in 2009. The essay incorrectly called it an “assault-style raid.” In the second case, the Department of Education says its search of the residence of alleged members of a student-loan fraud ring was successfully executed. The essay incorrectly described the search as “bungled” and incorrectly implied that the home was searched because a resident had failed to repay her student loan. Finally, Mr. Balko says that he sought comment from the U.S. government agencies mentioned in the essay while researching a book in 2012. The essay incorrectly implied that the agencies had failed to respond to recent requests for comment.

So, yes, perhaps the libertarians need a better “thought” “leader” on the issue. And today it seems they also need someone capable of keeping their team on message….

Uber’s Travis Kalanick is probably tied with [Pando investor] Peter Thiel for the title of Silicon Valley’s most high profile libertarian. Kalanick’s entire schtick has been that Uber is Robin Hood to the government’s Sheriff of Nottingham.


Last month I wrote about what seemed to be a weird, heavily armed overreaction to an unlawful Uber pickup in San Francisco. Armed cops and SFMTA agents surrounded a driver, with hands hovering over their weapons, apparently because he picked up a street hail.

Surely Uber’s uber-libertarian CEO would have something to say about that? And yet, the company remained weirdly silent, even after Pando asked them for comment. Why on earth would Kalanick not want to make hay from another example of government oppression?

Today we got a possible answer, via this tweet from Mother Jones’ Shane Bauer. Uber is “platinum sponsor” of Urban Shield 2014, a two day convention and training exercise, happening right now in San Francisco, dedicated to encouraging and supporting… the militarization of law enforcement. The event’s slogan: “critical training for critical times.”

MUCH MORE ABOUT THIS AT:

http://pando.com/2014/09/04/why-is-libertarian-uber-sponsoring-san-franciscos-giant-police-militarization-conference/
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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
2. It's Silicon Valley Wall St. Billionaire "UBER" who is involved in this?
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 09:24 PM
Sep 2014

What does a company that wants to put Taxi Drivers out of business by hiring "jobbers" to be "Transportation on Call...Anywhere, Anytime" need to be sponsoring a Militarizing of US Police Force Trade Show Extravaganza?

That's what the problem is....

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
3. Meh. Taxi medallions are one of the biggest rackets out there right now
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 09:37 PM
Sep 2014

NYC arbitrarily capped the number of cabs in the 1930s and hasn't raised it since. Every city I've lived in, the medallion owners wind up exerting an ungodly amount of political influence, all to the end of protecting that racket. Between Uber getting rich and the medallion owners getting rich, I don't see why one is preferable to the other.

As to why Uber is sponsoring Urban Shield? Why do companies sponsor things? It's a lot more than a "militarization of law enforcement" conference.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
6. Nah, that used to be the big racket. Now it's Uber and Lyft and the other unregulated players
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 09:49 PM
Sep 2014

who make the medallion caps seem reasonable. At least cab drivers are regulated for safety.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
7. Ah, that old lie
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 10:08 PM
Sep 2014
At least cab drivers are regulated for safety.



This again. Uber is regulated like any other fleet car service.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
9. They claim to be a ride-sharing service, not a fleet car service
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 10:16 PM
Sep 2014

and as such they have been ignoring regs for livery service at least in the SF Bay Area.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
4. Unvetted. No background check, no training, not properly licensed, who the hell know what
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 09:38 PM
Sep 2014

kind of insurance the drivers carry or the condition of their cars.

It made me really happy when my 24 year old daughter told me that, for solidarity and safety reasons, she would never take UBER.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
8. Uber is regulated like any limo service
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 10:09 PM
Sep 2014

Whatever regulations the city has in place for limo services applies to Uber. I don't know where people get the idea that this is some free-for-all.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
10. And limo services are regulated at a lower standard to cab services.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 10:27 PM
Sep 2014

I know people who drive for UBER, And yes, it is pretty much a free-for-all. Neither of them had their vehicle safety checked other than the fact that it was late model. Both had to provide proof of insurance but there is no further assurance that the insurance was cancelled the next day.

San Francisco regulated taxis have to deliver anywhere. To the best neighborhoods and the worst. Uber has no such policy. Thus, Uber business model will drive out a business that is committed to providing service to all parts of the city. San Francisco regulated taxis have to accommodate the disabled. Uber does not.

Uber has instituted demand driven fee schedule which screws people over during high demand (after a concert or game, etc.) San Francisco's regulated fee schedule protects citizens from predatory pricing. That is, the person who only has $20 in their pocket is as likely to afford a cab ride home as the person who has $120 in their pocket.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
11. Its a Huge deal on the Business News ....Uber the NEW Entreprenuerial Wonder Company...
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 10:29 PM
Sep 2014

Billionaire Silicon Valley Guy going to put Cab Drivers out of Business!

I thought the same as you. Who vets these drivers and their vehicles. They work cheap means they aren't vetted and their equipment is not checked out.

Can't believe people get suckered into this... Good for your daughter....she sounds like she's got "good smarts."

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